New Presidential Poll: 2004 Updated

Thanks for the clearer reply, NetPublicist. So, if Peroutka becomes President,would we aide them in war if they came under attack? Would we stand with them? Would the U.S. assist them if they found themselves coming under attack? An ally? Is this the Constitutional Party's stance on this issue?

The reason I ask is because I have a friend who is a strong supporter of Mr. Peroutka and he made a statement to me once that Peroutka isn't one to suck up to Isreal and promote their agenda. I just found that comment interesting.

 

I would hope that no citizen of these United States would suck up to Israel, or any foreign nation, and promote its agenda.

 

Considering the current state of our economy (a 2.8 percent growth rate over the past year--hardly worth touting against the growth rates of the Clinton years along with a slump in job growth in July and August, and the loss of another 150,000 jobs) and the fact that the sluggishness is a result of the huge budget deficits created by Bush budgets, I don't think we can afford four more years of GWB. I like several of the independent candidates, including Peroutka, but Kerry represents the best chance of getting rid of the worst president we've had since Harding or Hoover.

Aside from all of that, I'm particularly angry at Bush's attempts to smear Kerry's war record in exactly the same way he did to John McCain. This is nothing but a blatant attempt to distract attention from the real issues, which are the disaster in Iraq (shades of Vietnam and the first of many defeats in the so-called war on terror) and the sagging economy caused by his tax policies. Also, Bush doesn't have a war record, so he has to attack his opponent's, to keep voters from realizing that he is a chicken draft dodger. That alone is enough to make me vote for Kerry.

 

Even if Mr. Peroutka won the election and became President, it is doubtful that US Foreign Aid to Israel would end, the reason being that it is Congress which approves the foreign aid to Israel (and other countries, as well).

For over 50 years, the United States and Israel have shared a mutually beneficial relationship which is not about to change. Israeli intelligence is our eyes and ears in the Middle East. Israel is the only true democracy in the region and technology and science have prospered because of the US-Israel relationship.

Much of what the US grants to Israel (under the umbrella of foreign aid) are loan guarantees. Israel has too many long-term friendships with people in high places in the United States, including several million Evangelical Christians and quite a few Senators and Congressmen. Also, corporations in the United States have contracts with Israel and supply her with military supplies for defense, such as jets, which in turn, supplies jobs for those in our aerospace industry.

Israel is one of the very few countries to whom the US gives foreign aid who gives something back for that "aid." Most of the other countries just have their hands out and hate us and preach hate against us while they receive the generousity of our tax dollars. Or they smile at us and give a wink to the terrorists. Or they smile at us and side with our enemies. Or sometimes they don't smile at all.

Israel doesn't do that. The intelligence that Israel supplies the US is invaluable. The liaison between the US and Israel advances technology, science, medicine between the two countries. If you look at nearly any modern convenience or any technology in the last 50 years, it was either an American or Jew who invented it, and many times it was due to a collaboration between the two. Some American Jews hold dual Israeli citizenships. And vice versa.

America's heritage is a Judeo-Christian heritage, and no one, not even Mr. Peroutka would deny that. The bonds between America and Israel are strong and deep. Which is why certain corners of the world refer to us as the Big Satan and the Little Satan. But it is a bond which outsiders cannot hope to understand. Israel would go to bat for the US in a New York minute. And cutting off foreign aid to our little but mighty friend and ally in the Middle East would surely help those who hate her, drive her into the sea.

As far as some of the other countries, the United States has made long-term commitments in supplying humanitarian and medical assistance to other countries. So while Mr. Peroutka may wish to cut off all US foreign aid to anyone anywhere, the likelihood of that happening, should he become President of these United States, is practically nil. Kinda like a toothless tiger.

 

ROTFL 4 more years of Bush will be another 4 years wasted.

 

But not nearly so wasted as four years of the only alternative, John Kerry.

 

Bush... Kerry... either would be four wasted years. Equally wasted in my opinion.
I know I don't want some man who worships the same god as the muslims who seek to destroy our way of life leading this country.

 

Amen to that, Jim.

 

You know sometimes I get so tempted to "cut loose" on these msg boards. But alas I did that once and lived to deeply regret it!

CHECK THIS OUT:
BUSH AND KERRY ON THE MORAL ISSUES

If we vote for the man who leads us in the right direction morally will not God bless us economically

 

Yep, that's why a vote for Moral Authority is a vote for Michael Peroutka!

Check this out:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz1086.htm

 

I think the Consttuional Party needs to develop at the grass roots level more. Like getting local and state government people elected, then congressmen and senators,then they would have a chance to get a president elected. Until then it is just a pipe dream. To those of you in the Constitution party I apologize for being pragmatic. For now I vote Bush.

 

The Constitution Party is trying to get candidates elected at the local and state level. There are at least 38 candidates that I know about nationwide:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/candidates.php

These candidates have to jump through hurdles and spend lots of money just to get on the ballots every election. It's not like a candidate who wants to run with one of the two major parties that simply runs and is guarenteed ballot access.

 

Maybe. But it's just a move from "incompetent and awful" to "awful." A marginal improvement at best.

I can understand the concern about helping Bush. But Texas is very unlikely to go for anyone but Bush. You can safely vote for Peroutka, and not affect the outcome.

But the more people who turn their backs on the demopublicans, the more the two major parties will feel the need to reform.

Help us.

 

I wonder, if it were possible for Sadaam or Osama to vote for Kerry and Bush, who would they vote for?

I think we know the answer to that, so why would we take the risk of voting for someone other then Bush at this critical time?

We have to choose our battles carefully. We need more Christians to run for political office and get involved in this process. Then we will be stronger and have a louder voice in issues and candidates to come.

 

OBL has a good thing going, I don't think he'd want to upset it. Bush has removed Hussein, who was one of OBL's beggest enemies in the middle east. Terrorists are now able to run rampant in Iraq, where they were never able to before. And, the "war" in Iraq has been a recruiting bonanza for Al Quaeda. It's a lot easier to recruit someone whose house and family were destroyed by a US missile strike, and to stir up hatred towards us.

So, I think the vote would probably be split...OBL, who attacked us, would go for Bush, while Hussein, who was dogged by the Bush family for twelve years, would go for Kerry.

 

Sounds right. Al Qaeda has told its operatives that Bush would be preferrable to Kerry.

And the Bushes and Saddam seem to have an ongoing feud with each other.

 

I would love to read the documentation for this. Thanks.

 

UK news yahoo.com

Not exactly documented.

 

Then why all the hate mail?

http://www.drudgereport.com/abct2.htm

HankD

 

Any vote not for Bush will get you Kerry who is further from your Libertarian and Constitutional ideals than Bush. So you will take your worst nightmare just to prove a point? That is illogical. You will get more abortions and a rturn of partial birth abortions as well as gay marriage because W doesn't dot all the i's. Silly is the best word I can think for that.