Because of the angels

The angels don't understand things in earthly creation and God's order on earth since they are not human. It seems from this passage and a few others, God has certain principles that serve as witnesses to the angels of how he deals with mankind.

 

The problem for Paul is the shame, the incongruity, the embarrasement of the whole thing. The uncovering of the hair conveys a message that is inappropriate to be conveyed in church. Paul also understood that angels are also around,and he wants to add the idea that the angels are also upset over message conveyed by the uncovered hair.

It remains another question whether the same message is conveyed today. Certainly, amoung us humans, no such message is conveyed today. Are angels confined to the messages conveyed by styles of clothing from the first century and still therefore chagrined, or are they more concerned with the heart of the current humans involved? To me the latter seems more likely.

 

Some commentators suspect it has something to do with the "watchers". The Enochic writings describe "watcher" angels who were tempted by the beauty of the human women.

But who knows...

 

But this is not inspired scripture.

I don't find biblical support for angels being able to have relations with women. Angels seem to be asexual beings and are spirit beings.

I have never been convinced by any of the arguments that Gen. 6 teaches that fallen angels had relations with women.

 

Hello npetreley.

This prophesying a women is meant to do with a sign of authority over the angels on her head, I take it, is a thing Paul condemns in another place. He says a women should be silent in Church and she should ask her hubby if she has any questions.

I'd put these verses in a category of don't know and until I do I expect the little ladies to take their place alongside men, not behind them. The passages are ambiguous and if in our ambiguity we treat 50% of the human race as inferior then we don't help ourselves as men.

They'd have a problem with that if you know what I mean. The angels are asexual and spirits, if they are affected by the beauty of women it will not be in a way that men could be affected. The Sons of God mentioned are the Sethites who were the first tribe to be chosen.
GE 4:25 Adam lay with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him." 26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time men began to call on the name of the LORD.

Seth and his house were the Sons of God and they saw the daughters of men were fair game and mixed marriages occurred. Christians with non-Christians.

GE 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days...

These people were the forerunners of Goliath I think.

Num 13:33 ...(the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim).
Jos 15:13 ...(Arba was the forefather of Anak.)
And Jos 14:15 (Hebron used to be called Kiriath Arba after Arba, who was the greatest man among the Anakites.)...

Arba was a man not an hybrid.

I don't recall any? I know they can possess but not take on human form. Yes please cite.

It doesn't say the union of these two groups produced giants, it just says they were around at the same time and afterwards. The Nephilim were around at the time the mixed marriages took place, they were the heros of old, giants.

The clincer to this is: GE 6:5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

Man's wickedness is the reason for the flood not the fallen angels wickedness.

john.

 

The issue with coverture is authority or rank. Rank is observed in the Godhead, in the angels, and should be observed in the church.

It's interesting that you bring up Jude. The problem with the angels mentioned there is that they didn't "know their place" so to speak. They rebelled against authority.

That mentality wrought all kinds of sexual immorality, not in the angels, who can't have sex, but in those who after the manner of the angels didn't "know their place."

I have a thread on Feminism and homosexuality. What is Feminism but a rebellion against the rank of the male? And what is the end result but all kinds of Sodomy?

 

So now we believe that angels had sex with women, what about,was there any female angels to go after the men. (jeepers) I thought it was neither male or female in Heaven?

 

Blasphemy? I thought it was neither male or female in Heaven?
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Your remark; "I am waiting" is what I was referring to. The other discussion seems mostly to come from the book of Enoch which was written thousands of years after he was on the earth.

The sons of God are referring to Seth's decendants who were the family of faith and the sons of man were Cain's decendants who were the family of non-faith.