Do Christians become perfect with the Resurrection of the Dead?

</font>[/QUOTE]The word implies full development, growth into maturity of godliness, not sinless perfection. Eph 4:12-13. In this passage the Father's kindness, not His sinlessness, is the point in question. Lu 6:35-36 (Scofield)

 

Baptist belief is sure diverse.
Is this a little soul liberty?

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]No, If I remember correctly, ME2 is not really a Baptist; she is a universalist, believing that in the end all: evil and good will be saved.
DHK

 

the knowledge of Good and evil is the knowledge of the spiritual realm.

which contains two sides or opposing sides. the knowledge of God and who He is. and the knowledge of Satan and who he is.

Adam was destined to eat of the fruit.

It is Gods method of allowing man to become one within God's Son. to take on the image that was destined for man to eventually become.

In the beginning was the word. The "word" contained the plans of Salvation towards Gods creation. The substitution and sacrifice for Gods creation. the ultimate expression of Love towards his creation.

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and the verse concerning being perfect is pointing to being complete. follow the goal that has been started..becoming complete. God is complete in a sense that he is holy. Our Goal is the same to be holy. which is to contain the spirit and knowledge of our lord Jesus Christ.
That is Considered being Complete.

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DHK, Im a Guy. and Im a baptist that believes that God loves his creation. excluding none.
I do believe Jesus died for all sin and defeated death for everyone. even if they dont know it yet.
unlike others I believe That God will Save 100% of His creation instead of Torturing 99% forever.

Me2

 

No, Only one was necessary. and it aint mine.

all resurrections (soul/spirit) are spiritual...again, except one.


I appreciate those scriptures. They seem to be pointing to the eventual completion of a plan. The inclusion of having "Living Hope".It introduces that creation as it awaits the arrival of the Sons of God. those who have "living hope" have discovered their eternal nature of their spirits. giving the believer a more reassured attitude that God is Sovereign and Has everything in control from eternity past.
Those "in Christ" are destined to become the ambassadors of Christ in this age and the Age to come. a predestined group designed by God to be reconciling agents of God to the entirety of His creation.

as it was planned From the beginning of creation within the "word".

Me2

 

Kathryn,
Mat.5:48 does not necessarily mean holy. There are plenty of commands in the Bible, and they don’t all mean the same thing. Holy doesn’t mean perfect. Neither does grace. Each word has its own meaning. You have to do a word study and find out what the word means.

Certainly the Bible says that we must be holy.
It also says we must be perfect.
They are two different commands with two different meanings. The words holy and perfect are not the same words. Look them up.
DHK

 

I didn't know Baptists believed there is no redemption of the body.

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]Baptists do believe in the redemption of the body. Me2 has his own personal beliefs which are quite at odds with most Baptists.

 

As a rule of thumb, any belief that God PERSONALLY hasnt proved to me.

I cant believe.

such as He states he's infinite Love. and religion wants you to believe that God will torture 99% of his creation that he loves infinitely.

dont make much sense.

and this bodily resurrection is science fiction. something that this generation would swallow hook, line and sinker without questioning its very merits. all resurrections are spiritual. except the ones you want to imagine...of course in the future.
so youll never have to actually prove..

My God proves everything to me PERSONALLY that I believe. not something I can Imagine by reading a book.

Me2

 

That's a J.W. doctrine, believed in primarily to deny the deity of Christ.
Can you prove to me a "spiritual resurrection," or even explain one? There is no such thing.
DHK

 

Different words are used in different ways according to their context. How much have I emphasized that I do not know.

Rom.8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Some day our bodies will be redeemed. We wait for that day, which will be the coming of Christ. In fact the whole of creation is under the curse of God, and travails in pain, until Christ comes and sets up His Kingdom on earth and removes the curse.

None of this has to do with 1Cor.13:8-13
DHK

 

can you detect the spirit of God within you?

if you can detect it, Can you reassure yourself that it belonged to another human being, lived and died in another life. and had God the creator personally raise it from the dead....

we can go at this but I refuse
why dont you just stop the patronizing..

Everything that God Gives Man requires Faith.

and its not my faith. Its the Faith of My Lord Jesus Christ. Im just "overhearing" a conversation within myself.

Either I accept that its true or not...
without doubting...

Me2

 

You remember correctly. To answer otherwise would be blasphemous. Our bodies will be redeemed, but not perfect.
DHK