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Messianics?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Keith M, Dec 23, 2004.

  1. JamesRay

    JamesRay New Member

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    Did not Jesus say He would scatter the Jews to the four corners of the world?
     
  2. JamesRay

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    Ron--
    The Ashakazi Jews are from the lineage of Noah's son, Japeth
     
  3. Ben W

    Ben W Active Member
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    ALL OF THEM! </font>[/QUOTE]Unlikely, why do you think they are divided in the first place? You can not lump all Jews in the same basket. Consider the vast differences between the Pharisees and the Sadducees, they certainly are not one.
     
  4. liebeskind

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    You answer your own silly question! Now why don't you trace the blood line from Japeth and you will not find one lick of blood from Judah! Why don't you read this post as well so that you'll stop living a lie: http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/28/2972.html, YOU CAN'T TEACH ME ANYTHING ABOUT THEM, I HAVE ALL THEIR HISTORICAL REFERENCES, $11,000 WORTH, ALL WRITTEN BY THEIR RABBI'S AND HISTORIANS!

    And as far as you being native american, french etc.. You are not Native american just as I'm not African American, I am Black American because I am mixed with African, Native American and White! NOW IF I WANTED TO CLAIM NATIVE AMERICAN I COULD, IF I WANTED TO CLAIM WHITE I COULD, AND IF I WANTED TO CLAIM AFRICAN I COULD. DO YOU KNOW WHY? THE BLOOD IS THERE MAN! I WAS NOT CONVERTED AS THEY WERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THE JEWS TODAY (ACCEPT SOME ETHIOPIANS, SOUTHERN ARABIANS AND SOMOLIANS) THEY HAVE "NO BLOODLINE", TO JACOB OR JUDAH! THEY ARE EDOMITE MONGOLIANS CONVERTED TO BABYLONIAN JUDAISM! DO YOUR RESEARCH AND STOP THE NONSENSE!

    Please people, I know that you are hurting inside because you've been told a lie for so many years and all you had to do is open a book.

    GET OVER IT, AND DO CALL ME ANTISEMITIC, YOU ARE A LIAR IF YOU CALL ME THAT. WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SEMITES. FIND OUT WHERE THAT WORD COMES FROM THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOU ANSWER!

    THE ANSWER YOU WILL FIND IS THAT THE WORD COMES FROM "SHEM" NOAH'S OLDEST SON!

    AS YOU HAVE STATED SO BOLDLY (and I'm glad you did), THOSE WHO CALLED THEMSELVES JEWS TODAY ARE OF "JAPETH, AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE LABELED AS SEMITES. MAYBE THEY SHOULD COME UP WITH THE TERM "ANTIJAPETHITE" ! [​IMG]

    Here is something for you people who like to use the turn ANTISEMITE :

    "ASHKENAZI, ASHKENAZIM constituted before 1963 some nine-tenths of the Jewsish people (about 15,000,000 out of 16,5000,000)[ As of 1968 it is believed by some Jewish authorites to be closer to 100% ]" New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia , page 179,[GCP pg 68]

    Did you get that JR? That means ALL OF THEM!!!! Here is another one.

    "Ever since the Jews invented the libel charge of 'anti-Semitism' in the 1880s, it has been built up with Jewish money, organizations, propaganda and lies, so that now the word is like snake venom which paralyzes one's nervous system. The Jewish Encyclopedia 1901, Vol. I, p. 641.

    The word anti-Semite was first printed in 1880

    " The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish Religion . Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe - whether we are orthodox , conservative , reformed or merely spasmodic sentamentalists = we follow the Talmud . It is our Common Law." (The Talmud, by Herman Wouk(a jew) )

    So James you can pull any kind of jew out of your hat. ALL THE SAME!

    "The Talmud derives its authority from the position held by the ancient (Pharisee) academies. The teachers of those academies, both of Babylonia and of Palestine, were considered the rightful successors of the older Sanhedrin...At the present time, the Jewish people have no living central authority comparable in status to the ancient Sanhedrins or the later academies. Therefore, any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the Talmud as the final resume of the teaching of those authorities when they existed ." (The Jews - Their History, Culture, and Religion, by Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, Vol. 4, p. 1332, Jewish Publication Society of America, 1949)

    Now James if you know anything about the Talmud that ALL jews today follow, the you would know that they are ANTICHRISTIAN, they hate Eesho M'sheekha! So if you want to defend them be my guest. It really looks silly if you ask me.

    THANK GOD THE MESSIANICS JEWS DENOUNCE THE TALMUD AS EVIL, AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW IT.

    BUT YOU WANT TO DEFEND THE OTHER JEWS. STRANGE I TELL YOU, VERY STRANGE. (Manchurian Candidates!)

    [​IMG]

    Ron
     
  5. JamesRay

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    Wow.

    Ron--

    I can go on and on but the big question is "What does this have to do with anything?
    Noah was one of the first Jews (Chosen People)--&gt;Japeth his son, so Japeth had JEWISH BLOOD.

    Judah was one tribe OUT OF 12.

    So "AntiSemitism" isn't true and I suppose the Holocaust did not happen or Kristalnacht, either.
     
  6. Gina B

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    Ron, I'm noticing that you refuse to capitalize "Jews" in all of your sentences. (unless you're yelling the word) I find this offensive. Please type it correctly or I will assume your posts are racist and begin to edit them.
    Thanks.
    Gina
     
  7. liebeskind

    liebeskind Guest

    *edited because post contained personal attack, which is a violation of this rule which you agreed to when you joined this board:
    This rule was also violated:
    Gina

    [ December 26, 2004, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Gina L ]
     
  8. liebeskind

    liebeskind Guest

    *edited*

    You have violated this rule:
    You agreed to this rule, among others, when you joined this board.
    Gina

    [ December 26, 2004, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: Gina L ]
     
  9. TaterTot

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    What is your doctorate in? [​IMG]

    I am tired of you people speaking without knowledge! [/QUOTE]
     
  10. liebeskind

    liebeskind Guest

    What is your doctorate in? [​IMG]

    I am tired of you people speaking without knowledge! </font>[/QUOTE]
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    What is yours! Hey I know how I can get this to point across. Just wait!
     
  11. liebeskind

    liebeskind Guest

    Gina istead of deleting those things that offended, you deleted the facts, I will do it in another post! I know why and it is so funny!

    Ron
     
  12. dianetavegia

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    TaterTot, would you like to answer this very rude man about your college degree before I delete his ignorant post?

    Diane
     
  13. Gina B

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    What is your doctorate in? [​IMG]

    I am tired of you people speaking without knowledge! </font>[/QUOTE]
    </font>[/QUOTE]What is yours! Hey I know how I can get this to point across. Just wait!
    [/QUOTE]


    Just wait? Is this some type of veiled threat against one of our members?
    You owe her and this board an immediate explanation.
    Gina
     
  14. liebeskind

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    You know what so funny about everyone commenting on what I have posted, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE ONE REBUTTAL TO DISPROVE WHAT WAS STATED.

    Now it seems to me that some love to live the lie, and to tell it. But when asked to prove it, you're called an Antisemite or asked if you're and antisemite. But what they should be asking themsleves is why they have been lied too or why they've been telling lies to other Christians about the those who call themselves Jews.

    The truth should set you free, a lie never does!

    Ron
     
  15. TaterTot

    TaterTot Guest

    Excuse me, Ron? I am a seminary graduate. I have a BA and a Masters. My husband is almost done with a PhD (already has a BA, MDiv and ThM) and teaches at a seminary as adjunct faculty, and unless you have done similar work, you have NO idea what sacrifices "semetary school teachers" make to be able to be scholars in their field. That was a terribly ignorant statement you made. And you asked somewhere why no one is refuting your truths - its because, man - they dont make sense!!! If you are sincerely trying to teach us, you should learn to be a true student yourself. If you aren't willing to pay the price, then it might be prudent to stop trying to teach other people.
     
  16. DHK

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    Ron,
    before you post any further, could you please post some credentials that would show that you are qualified to post the information that you are spouting off. People usually say things they can back up. Others just rest on a basic principle that "ignorance is bliss." Which would you have us to believe? Tatertot was kind enough to post her academic qualifications; what are yours?
    DHK
     
  17. Joseph_Botwinick

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    My friend was raised Messianic, and she has shown me that a lot of what we Baptists believe about Messianics is absolutely wrong. I find this thinking jast a bit roo offensive.

    :D
    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/23/2740.html#000012
     
  18. billwald

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    "At the present time, the Jewish people have no living central authority comparable in status to the ancient Sanhedrins or the later academies."

    At the present time, the Christian people have no living central authority comparable in status to the ancient Sanhedrins or the later academies.
     
  19. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Our living central authority is greater in status than any other: Jesus Christ.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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