Jewelry, make up, and Christian women?

This is also funny: Would you mind showing me where I "argued" anything over any of those verses?

 

Don, sorry if I misinterpreted your post - looking back at the thread I see you are one of the voices of reason on this subject - I attributed to you the views of Oneness and Thomas Cassidy, which colored my interpretation of your post. I certainly agree with you that our focus should be on not causing our brothers/sisters in Christ to stumble, rather than pushing the limits of our freedom to dress how we please.

At any rate, I don't think godmetal meant he was in favor of a nitpicky standard of nakedness(which is equivalent to a nitpicky standard of "appropriate" dress). In fact, on previous posts he was advocating just the opposite, that there is no Biblical commands on what constitutes modest dress - just a command to dress modestly. His post about nakedness was a response to Oneness's assertion that God specifically stated that exposure of the breasts constituted nakedness and was therefore wrong for all cultures, not just our own.

 

The truth of the matter is that I agree with Oneness and Doc Cassidy. I do so because of the position I hold about concern for our brothers and sisters.

The truth of the matter, as I pointed out previously, is that Doc Cassidy has not told anyone that they MUST dress a certain way.

The truth of the matter is, that by arguing about the nit-noids, we lose sight of the spirit and intent. When we concentrate on the nit-noid, we concentrate on the letter of the law.

ANYONE who continues to argue the nit-noid is guilty of this, whether it be Oneness, Godmetal, me, or you.

 

I have never heard of a nit-noid before. Can I steal that from you or do you own the phrase??? I promise not to argue over it if I can have it!

~Lorelei

 

I haven't said anything about must wears either. I just called him (Mr Cassidy) on his "translation". He tried to justify his dress code with what is probably the worst translating job I have ever seen. If that is what he calls translating I don't think he could translate himself out of a dry paperbag.

I have maintained that we should dress modestly. I have just raised the question what constitutes modest. How do we determine modest? Why do churches even need dress codes? Why should women be limited to dresses? None of this is in the Bible. And when churches start in with dress codes such as women can only wear dresses, then they have lost sight of the Gospel and are more concerned with the "look at me I am better than you". Sorry but I don't go in for this false piety stuff which is what dress codes amount too.

[ March 22, 2002, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: Godmetal ]

 

Lorelei, as far as I know, "nit-noid" is public domain, and as such, is free for public use (as long as you don't use it in a manner for personal benefit or gain).

Godmetal, no, you didn't say anything about "must wears." You pretty much went the opposite direction towards "you can't tell me what I can or can't wear."

And you are incorrect. There actually is a dress standard in the Bible. Why do we need dress codes? To keep the line from blurring. When you can't tell men from women, there's a problem. It leads to other "compromises" that whittle away at the foundation; such as, when it's not clear who the head is, you have a problem.

So the original answer to MEE's question is yes, there are some scriptures that cover those topics. But you need to remember two things: The kingdom of heaven is not meat and drink; and it is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

Hope y'all understand the principle that is presented in those, and don't focus on the nit-noids in them.

I'm outta this thread. Please feel free to private message or e-mail me to tell me how wrong you think I am, and why.

[ March 22, 2002, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Don ]

 

You are inserting your cultural bias into a culture that is different from our own. Not all cultures see breasts as a sexual object.</font>[/QUOTE]Nakedness is looked down upon in the bible. It is a shame. It does not matter what your culture says. Our culture promates premerital sex, abortion, Homosexuality, and so on. Just b/c a person or sect does not see anything wrong with something does not make it right. Remember Nadedness was good in the beginning but disobeidence took away our innosence.

GB</font>[/QUOTE]Breast feeding a child is a beautiful and natural thing. Shakin' your money maker at a men's club is not. There's a difference.

 

Does God see breasts as a sexual object? I'll wait for your answer.

 

Many things are natural and beautiful, yet not intended for public display. That has the effect of profaning things.

Because our bodies are sacred, not evil, we shield them from the lustful eyes of sinful men.