Why Sunday can NOT be the Lord's Day

steaver,

I dont know how Ellen White got into this topic but you can go read the materials on the link below about Ellen White if you would like to.

http://www.seventh-day.org/Prophecy.htm

You can also go here:
http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/issues/issues.html

and read the sections under "Basic Principles Regarding the Messages of Ellen G. White" and "Questions and Answers About Ellen G. White
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A-Christian, Trotter, and John V,

I invite you all to go read these three articles, concerning being "under the law".

http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org/romans_chapter7.htm
http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org/romans_chapter7part2.htm

http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org/falseprophets.htm


The first two are by someone else and the third written by me. I still have to go back and re-write it but it should give you something to think about, hopefully.

Claudia

 

I decided to go ahead and just post this article I wrote on keeping theLaw and how it is so much misunderstood in the Christian World today. I hope it isnt too long.

How to distinguish a false prophet from a true prophet...


"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" Matthew 7:22,23. Iniquity means Lawlessness or sin. Let's put it simple... if you do not depart from sin, then one day Jesus will say to you "Depart from ME, I don't even know you!" John puts it another way, "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him" 1Jn:2:4. So, if you do not depart from sin and you refuse to keep God's Law, then you do not know Jesus. You don't know Jesus and Jesus will say "I don't know you".

In short, a true prophet will plainly tell you that you must keep God's commandments, His LAW, and depart from sin... but a false prophet will try to convince the people that they do not have to keep the commandments, because it is Satan's object to draw you away from the path of safety and from the true God... the Devil wants to bring you back into the bondage of the law of sin and death. Ezek:18:4: "..the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

Deuteronomy 13:1-8
1: If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2: And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3: Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4: Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5: And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
8: Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him


Isaiah 30:1,2,8-11 1: Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt! Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever: That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits: Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

False prophets have ALWAYS been popular! People loved to hear the false message that "it doesn't matter what you do .. .you can be saved in your sins" way back during old testament times and they still love that same message today. SMOOTH WORDS are what many Christians want to hear. "We dont want to hear about the law of God" they say. 2 Timothy 4:3,4: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth.

Ephesians 5:3-6 "But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience."

Well so much for the false message heard so frequently from the lips of the false prophets and teachers who claim that "works have nothing to do with our salvation".

Lk:6:26: "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets."
People love to be coddled in their sins. People love to hear that "everything will be allright, dont worry about it". People love to hear the messages of false prophets who will lull them into a sense of false security. But we are admonished to test these prophets! Does what they teach square up with the Word of God?

1John:4:
1: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2: Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4: Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5: They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6: We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
7: Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8: He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Did you get that? If you do not have LOVE then you do not know God and you are under the "spirit of error". To claim that "we only need to believe" is an unbiblical lie! --keep in mind this passage is talking about HOW TO SPOT A FALSE PROPHET and how to test them!
To "confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh" does not mean to make a mere acknowledgement of the fact... Read the whole passage above. If you TRULY understand that Jesus came in the flesh (Jesus is God and became man, thereby having both the divine and human nature) then the end result of the proper understanding of the fact will lead you to TEACH that only he who overcomes sin by the power of Christ and HAS LOVE ... REALLY KNOWS GOD! (read the entire passage above).

A TRUE PROPHET will teach that you MUST HAVE LOVE to have eternal life... they will not claim, as false prophets do, that "works don't have anything to do with our salvation"... (Read I John 4: 1-8 again... the antichrist and his helpers will NOT teach that we must be born again and that if we are, we will show this BY HAVING LOVE! (verse 6-8). However, God's true prophets will teach the following:
I John 3:14,15: We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. NOTICE that in the passage above, I John 4:6-8 tells us clearly that "Hereby do we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error... if we are BORN OF GOD we will love one another!" If someone does not teach this message but instead claims that what we do has nothing to do with your salvation, you may IMMEDIATELY know they are false teachers, not sent of God!

Please understand that we CANNOT PLEASE GOD and we DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST if we continue walking "in the flesh" (in lawlessness, sin). I John 4:3: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist
In fact, the very reason Jesus came "in the likeness of sinful flesh" was to overcome sin as a man... therefore CONDEMNING sin in the flesh. And "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." -however, if you DO continue sinning in the flesh, then you are STILL under condemnation!

Romans 8:
1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5: For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6: For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

*Please note that "the carnal man" (one who still walks in the flesh, in sin, in lawlessness) CANNOT BE SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD! The man who now walks in the Spirit, however, IS subject to the Law of God. So many false teachers twist these passages around and try to make them seem to say that now we are free to break the Law of God. FALSE PROPHETS!

John 8: 31: Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33: They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34: Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Note that the Apostle Paul talks about the fact that we are going to be a servant or "slave" to SOMETHING... whether it be a slave to sin or a slave to righteouness... and he does NOT tell us to keep on being a servant of sin!... we do not want to keep ourselves under bondage to sin while claiming to be "under grace"!...Remember that we read in Deuteronomy 13:1-8 that God has brought us OUT of bondage (that bondage of sin or the "law of sin and death") but that false prophets will try to put you back INTO bondage... and draw you away from the path of keeping the commandments of God!

Romans 6:11-16 "Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"

*Note that in the verse above, if we keep sinning, we are are "sinning unto DEATH", not eternal life! We are keeping ourselves therefore under the law of sin and death!

Many Christians have a complete misconception of the word "bondage" in the Bible. They have the idea that it is "to go back into bondage" to keep the law of God. But in reality, the Bible teaches that it is the "Law of sin and death" that causes the bondage. Read this again:

Romans 8:
1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


In other words... we are to keep the law of God, but we keep trying and trying and fail. Thus we are "under the law if sin and death". Ezek:18:4: "..the soul that sinneth, it shall die." If we sin, we will die! (cause and effect) -This is what brings bondage. We stay in bondage to our sinful natures and it's effects, which will result in condemnation. BUT when we take hold of Jesus Christ by faith, die to sin, and be "born again" ...walking in the Spirit, and bearing the FRUITS of the Spirit... love, kindness, etc... THEN we are no longer in bondage! We are no longer under the bondage of the condemnation of the law... and why? BECAUSE WE ARE NOW KEEPING THE LAW! That's why! Now go back and read Romans 8 again! and read Galatians

Galatians 5:
13: For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
14: For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15: But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16: This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17: For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18: But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Do you understand now that when we crucify our sin,,, crucify the flesh... and begin walking in the Spririt... producing the fruits of the Spirit (love, defined in the Bible as the ten commandments -Romans 13:8-10) - that THEN we are no longer "Under the CONDEMNATION OF that law"? Why? because... Galatians 5 verse 22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

There IS NO LAW against love! Love IS the Law, the Law IS love! so when we begin keeping the law, THEN we are no longer "under the condemnation of the law of sin and death" you see? Why? BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER VIOLATING THAT LAW! Now if someone tries to teach you that the Bible says we are now free from KEEPING THE LAW... you can KNOW they are a false teacher!

And now you might say, "But we are under the new covenant now, and thus we no longer are expected to keep God's ten commandment law!" Reader, do you feel this way? ...if so, then you are misunderstanding the old and new covenants!

The terms of the old covenant were, Obey and live: "If a man do, he shall even live in them" (Ezekiel 20:11; Leviticus 18:5); but "cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them." Deuteronomy 27:26.

But the new covenant was established upon "better promises"--the promise of forgiveness of sins and of the grace of God to renew the heart and bring it into harmony with the principles of God's law.

"This shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts . . . . I will forgive their iniquity, and will remember their sin no more." Jeremiah 31:33, 34.

Hebrews 8:
6: But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7: For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8: For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people

And now going back to the subject of "love"... we saw that the antichrist spirit will NOT teach that we must be born again and walk in LOVE (I John 4:1-8). And WHAT IS LOVE? are we now free to define that for ourselves? NO! Many have the mistaken idea that in New Testament times, under the new covenant, we must only have "love" and that the Ten Commandments are merely a "dead letter" that we need no longer concern ourselves with. However, the principles of love are defined within God's Ten Commandment Law. Let's listen to the Jesus...

"Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked Jesus a question, saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matthew 22:36-40 The reason that Jesus said, "On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" is because the first 4 commandments define love to God (Thou shalt have no other gods before me, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, etc.) and the last 6 define love to thy neighbor (Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal). This same idea is repeated by the Apostle Paul in the book of Romans:

"...he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended (summarized) in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. " Romans 13:8,9: So you see then that love to God and neighbor is merely a SUMMARY of or is briefly comprehended in the Ten Commandment Law. And not only that but both Jesus and Paul were merely reiterating what had already been declared in old Testament times! Watch this:

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord: and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." Deuteronomy 6:4,5.

"Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." Leviticus 19:18.

Sound familiar? Jesus was merely quoting directly out of the old testament when He said Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind and Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

God's claims have always been the same. Jesus did not really give us a "new" commandment to keep, He was bringing to light the foundation principles of love which have always underlined the ten commandments of old. This is why John said the following words:

"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning." I John 2:3-7. The principles of His government are the same. For all proceed from Him "with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning." James 1:17.
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NEW AGE SPIRITUALISM teaches that the Law of God is no longer necessary, and so do false prophets in our day:


SPIRITUALISM (now called the New Age Movement) teaches that the law of God was done away with, and no longer needed... FALSE PROPHETS teach the same thing today...

Isa:8:20:19: "And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

1Tm:4:1: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils

Eph:2:2: Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air (Satan), the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.

In New Age teaching, the law of God is put out of sight and regarded as a dead letter because supposedly "we ourselves are now the law". The New Age Religion teaches that the law of God has been abolished, and that now all we need to do is "love"... and this love is defined in whatever way each individual deems best and degraded into weak sentimentalism! Furthermore, possessing this love is deemed a "moral option" and not a necessity for salvation!

Do we not today hear this same teaching echoed from many modern Christian pulpits today? Unfortunately, most have no idea that this idea really originated from Satan. "Do as thou will and harm none" is a spiritualistic teaching that now passes as a Christian one.

How often do we hear "all we need to do now is love one another" from Christian pulpits? Yet the Ten Commandments that God has given us to define true love, are kept cleverly out of site and even declared to be abolished. Yet we have already see that the Apostle Paul has told us that the admonition of Jesus Christ to love God and love your neighbor is "briefly comprehended" or summarized in ALL TEN of the commandments! (see Romans 13:8-10)

Spiritualist teachers set aside the Law of God. They teach that the sinful, erring nature of man is the only standard of character, and they affect great pity for minds so narrow and weak as to acknowledge the claims of God and obey the requirements of His law.

In ancient times, when Spiritualists contacted the "spirit world" the demon-gods fostered the vilest license for sin. The divine precepts condemning sin and enforcing righteousness were set aside and impurity was not only permitted, but also encouraged. Spiritualism declares that there is no death, no sin, no judgments, no retribution; that men are unfallen gods; that desire is the highest law; and that man is accountable only to himself... does not this teaching betray it's true origin?" Yet much of our modern Christianity has adopted this identical vile teaching! 1Timothy 4:1: "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils"

And now, let's see what top New Age Personality, David Spangler has to say about the Law of God:


"The evolution of the race is for man to learn not how to obey the law but how to be the law. There is a vast, vast difference. If you are the law it means that you are at one with the whole. For divine law simply exists. When a person understands this, then he begins to have that attunement, when he is the law, he is not going to act in any way that will disturb or distort the true balance of the true wholeness... The New Age is an age where there is needed that group of people who through attunement can be self-governing, act as the law, as the divine, as the right, as the love."-David Spangler, Relationship and Identity, pg. 89,91,93

"We can take all the Scriptures and all the teachings, and all the tablets and all the Laws, and all the marshmallows and have a jolly good bonfire and marshmallow roast, because that's all they are worth. Once you are the law, once you are the truth, you do not need it externally represented for you." -David Spangler, Emergence: Rebirth of the Sacred, Findhorn Publications, pg. 144

Friends, is not this same teaching echoed in many modern Christian pulpits and publications today? We are told that "we now do not need the law because we love our neighbor and so we do not need the law externally represented for us anymore".

Gnosticism enters the Early Church


In II Thessalonians Chapter 2 we were warned that there would come a "falling away" in the Church and that this "mystery of iniquity (sin)" was already at work.

Gnosticism appeared in the latter part of the First Century of the Christian Era. Its influence upon New Age thought is undeniable, as New Agers freely admit.The Gnostics tried to interpret Christianity in terms of pagan philosophies, which came from Greek, Egyptian, and Babylonian metaphysics. They took the various teachings from these Occult Mystery Schools, and then attempted to fit the teachings into a new 'Christian' setting, claiming that Gnosticism was the true form of Christianity.

The Gnostics became a sect that claimed to possess a "Secret Knowledge'" that made them superior to the common Christians, who were not privileged to have the same information that they themselves had. They asserted that Christ had allowed them to inherit the Secret Doctrines or esoteric (hidden) teachings of God's Word. And by combining pagan philosophies with the apostolic doctrines of Christianity, Gnosticism became a very strong influence in the ancient Church. But the true Christians labeled it as 'heresy' and fought vigorously against it!

Now these Gnostics claimed that they could know God, yet this so-called "knowing" was not backed up by obedience to God. This war by the true Christians against Gnosticism in the early church can be seen by the words of John. Many Christians in his day claimed to "know" God, but John let them know in no uncertain terms that their claim was false, unless it was backed up by obedience to His commandments! 1Jn:2:3: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1Jn:2:4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

The false doctrine is now largely taught that the Gospel of Christ has made the Law of God of no effect; that by "believing" we are released from the necessity of being doers of the word. But this is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which Christ so unsparingly condemned. The Nicolaitans were a Gnostic sect. To the church of Ephesus JOHN said:

"I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil; and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars; and hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast labored, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Revelation 2:1-7
The Nicolaitans were a Gnostic sect that plagued the church at Ephesus. The founder was Nicolas of Antioch, a convert to Judaism, one of the seven deacons (Acts 6:5). Adherants to this sect taught that deeds of the flesh do not affect the purity of the soul, and thus have no bearing on salvation. Notice that in I Jn 2:4 John said that those who do not keep the commandments yet claim to "know" God are LIARS and the truth is not in them. Then in Revelation 2:1-7 he commended the church of Ephesus for warring against the Nicolaitans- "and hast found them LIARS". That is because he is talking about the same identical thing... the Gnosticism that had entered into the church... the false teaching of "know God" without proving it by the keeping of the Law of God, the ten commandments!

And so this idea of "all we have to do is believe" and just "know God" had it's origin in the Spiritualistic Gnosticism that had entered into the Early Church! Yet their claim to know God was not backed up by the keeping of His commandments. Thus John repeated several times that if a person really knows God, he will keep His commandments! He even repeated the same thought in Revelation in regard to the Nicolaitans saying, "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Rev. 2:7

What went wrong? Christianity today is following in the footsteps of ancient Israel. The Church lost sight of its mission to the world, in reflecting God's attributes through the keeping of His Law. Little by little, at first in stealth and silence, and then more openly as it increased in strength and gained control of the minds of men, "the mystery of iniquity" has carried forward its deceptive work. Almost imperceptibly the customs of heathenism have found their way into the Christian Church. 2Thes:2:7: For the mystery of iniquity (lawlessness) doth already work.

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come... (many will be) lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2Timothy 3:1,4,5. Many Christians today claim to love God and have merely an outward form of godliness, while denying the power of God to transform the life! In the Old Testament it is put a little differently: Ezek:33:31: "And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness." In other words they SAY "with their mouths" that they love God but their actions, their works, testify that they are false professors of Christianity!

How often do we hear Christians professing that "they love God so much"... while at the same time- with many of them, it's difficult to tell them from a worldling. "Lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God". Jesus said: "If ye love me, keep my commandments." Jn:14:15.

We do know that this mystery of iniquity has already been at work in the Church. The vital truths of the Scriptures have been watered down almost one degree at a time. This has been done to such a great extent that it is has become increasingly difficult in our day to distinguish the Christian from the worldly man. Satan, the great adversary of God, has been working in secret to undermine the very pillars of the Christian faith. In the book of Jude chapter 1 verse 3, we are exhorted to "earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints". The situation however, is that much of Christianity today has no idea what constitutes "that faith that was once delivered to the saints", and that is why there is much confusion in the Church today.

Today, as then, there are false religious teachers, to whose doctrines many listen with "itching ears". This even has been foretold in the Scriptures: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 3:3,4

Yet the eyes of God are over His beloved Church, and He sees and knows it all. Our merciful Lord, in these last days of earth's history, gives a final call to mankind to return to the purity of doctrine that once was held in precious esteem by the church. In the Book of Revelation, it is brought to our attention that Satan, otherwise known as the Dragon or Serpent would go out to persecute the pure woman (the term "woman" symbolizes the church: Jer:6:2: I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.), and to "make war with the remnant of her seed which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" Rev. 12:17. By this we should know that there were at one time a pure church, a pure people, who kept the commandments of God and that God has purposely worked to preserve the truths of His Word, that "faith once delivered to the saints," through a special remnant in these last days. The word "remnant" means "the end remainder of". No matter how hard Satan tried to obliterate the truth, God preserved for Himself a remnant, that would proclaim the original pure doctrines.... "that faith once delivered to the saints" Jude 1:3.

Perhaps these words from the Three Angels of Revelation will have more meaning to us now: Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters (Notice this is quoted right out of the 4th commandment, the Sabbath commandment!)... Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev. 14:6,7,12


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PORTION OF A SERMON AT WORCESTER, MASSACHUSETTS, JULY 31, 1885, TITLED "THE TRUE STANDARD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS."
The question now to be asked is, Are the professed followers of Christ complying with the conditions upon which the blessing is pronounced? Are they separating in spirit and practice from the world? How hard to come out and be separate from worldly habits and customs! But let us look well to it that Satan does not allure and deceive us through false representations. Eternal interests are here involved. God's claims should come first; His requirements should receive our first attention.

Every child of fallen Adam must, through the transforming grace of Christ, become obedient to all God's requirements. Many close their eyes to the plainest teachings of His Word because the cross stands directly in the way. If they lift it, they must appear singular in the eyes of the world; and they hesitate and question and search for some excuse whereby they may shun the cross. Satan is ever ready, and he presents plausible reasons why it would not be best to obey the Word of God just as it reads. Thus souls are fatally deceived.

A Successful Deception
One of Satan's most successful deceptions is to lead men to claim to be sanctified, while at the same time they are living in disobedience to God's commandments. These are described by Jesus as those who will say, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?"

Yes, those who claim to be sanctified have a great deal to say about being saved by the blood of Jesus, but their sanctification is not through the truth as it is in Jesus. While claiming to believe in Him, and apparently doing wonderful works in His name, they ignore His Father's law and serve as agents of the great adversary of souls to carry forward the work which he began in Eden, that of making plausible excuses for not obeying God implicitly. Their work of leading men to dishonour God by ignoring His law will one day be unfolded before them with its true results.

The conditions of eternal life are made so plain in God's Word that none need err, unless they choose error rather than truth because their unsanctified souls love the darkness rather than the light.

The lawyer who came to Christ with the question, "Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" thought to catch Christ, but Jesus laid the burden back upon the lawyer. "What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself." Then said Christ, "Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live" (Luke 10:25-28). These words meet the individual cases of all. Are we willing to comply with the conditions? Will we obey God and keep His commandments? Will we be doers of the Word and not hearers only? God's law is as immutable and unchangeable as His character. Whatever men may say or do to make it void does not change its claims or release them from their obligation to obey.

We need divine enlightenment daily; we should pray as did David, "Open Thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of Thy law" (Psalm 119:18). God will have a people upon the earth who will vindicate His honour by having respect to all of His commandments; and His commandments are not grievous, not a yoke of bondage. David prayed in his day, "It is time for Thee, Lord, to work: for they have made void Thy law" (verse 126).

Not one of us can afford to dishonour God by living in transgression of His law. To neglect the Bible and give ourselves up to the pursuit of worldly treasure is a loss which is beyond estimate. Eternity alone will reveal the great sacrifice made by many to secure worldly honour and worldly advantages, at the loss of the soul, the loss of eternal riches. They might have had that life which measures with the life of God; for Jesus died to bring the blessings and treasures of heaven within their reach, that they might not be accounted poor and wretched and miserable in the high estimate of eternity.

None Enter As Commandment-breakers
None who have had the light of truth will enter the city of God as commandment-breakers. His law lies at the foundation of His government in earth and in heaven. If they have knowingly trampled upon and despised His law on the earth, they will not be taken to heaven to do the same work there; there is no change of character when Christ comes.

The character building is to go on during the hours of probation. Day by day their actions are registered in the books of heaven, and they will in the great day of God be rewarded as their works have been. It will then be seen who receives the blessing. "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" (Revelation 22:14).

Those who make a raid against God's law are warring against God Himself; and many who are filled with the greatest bitterness against the commandment-keeping people of God make the loudest boast of living holy, sinless lives. This can be explained only in one way: they have no mirror in which to look to discover to themselves the deformity of their character. Neither Joseph, Daniel, nor any of the apostles claimed to be without sin. Men who have lived nearest to God, men who would sacrifice life itself rather than to knowingly sin against Him, men whom God has honoured with divine light and power, have acknowledged themselves to be sinners, unworthy of His great favours. They have felt their weakness and, sorrowful for their sins, have tried to copy the pattern Jesus Christ.

Just Two Classes--Obedient and Disobedient
There are to be but two classes upon the earth, the obedient children of God and the disobedient. Upon one occasion Christ thus set before His hearers the judgement work: "When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory: and before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: and He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

"Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was an hungred, and ye gave Me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave Me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took Me in: naked, and ye clothed Me: I was sick, and ye visited Me: I was in prison, and ye came unto Me.

"Then shall the righteous answer Him, saying, Lord, when saw we Thee an hungred, and fed Thee? or thirsty, and gave Thee drink? When saw we Thee a stranger and took Thee in? or naked, and clothed Thee? or when saw we Thee sick, or in prison, and came unto Thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me" (Matthew 25:31-40).

Thus Christ identifies His interest with that of suffering humanity. Every attention given to His children He considers done to Himself personally. Those who claim modern sanctification would have come boastingly forward, saying, "Lord, Lord, do You not know us? Have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?" The people have described, who make these pretentious claims, apparently weaving Jesus into all their doings, fitly represent those who claim modern sanctification but who are at war with the law of God. Christ calls them workers of iniquity because they are deceivers, having on the garments of righteousness to hide the deformity of their characters, the inward wickedness of their unholy hearts.

Satan has come down in these last days to work with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish. His satanic majesty works miracles in the sight of false prophets, in the sight of men, claiming that he is indeed Christ Himself. Satan gives his power to those who are aiding him in his deceptions; therefore those who claim to have the great power of God can only be discerned by the great detector, the law of Jehovah. The Lord tells us if it were possible they would deceive the very elect. The sheep's clothing seems so real, so genuine, that the wolf can be discerned only as we go to God's great moral standard and there find that they are transgressors of the law of Jehovah.

Now, if There Was Ever a Time
If ever there was a time when we needed faith and spiritual enlightenment, it is now. Those who are watching unto prayer and are searching the Scriptures daily with an earnest desire to know and do the will of God will not be led astray by any of the deceptions of Satan. They alone will discern the pretext which cunning men adopt to beguile and ensnare. So much time and attention are bestowed upon the world, upon dress and eating and drinking, that no time is left for prayer and the study of the Scriptures.

We want the truth on every point, and we must search for it as for hid treasures. Dishes of fables are presented to us on every hand, and men choose to believe error rather than truth, because the acceptance of the truth involves a cross. Self must be denied; self must be crucified. Therefore Satan presents to them an easier way by making void the law of God. When God lets man have his own way, it is the darkest hour of his life. For a wilful, disobedient child to be left to have his own way, to follow the bent of his own mind and gather the dark clouds of God's judgement about him, is a terrible thing.

But Satan has his agents who are too proud to repent and who are constantly at work to tear down the cause of Jehovah and trample it under their feet. What a day of sorrow and despair when these meet their work with all its burden of results! Souls who might have been saved to Jesus Christ have been lost through their teachings and influence.

Christ died for them that they might have life. He opened before them the way whereby they might, through His merits, keep the law of God. Christ says, "I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it" (Revelation 3:8). How hard men work to close that door; but they are not able. John's testimony is, "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament" (Revelation 11:19). Beneath the mercy seat, within the ark, were the two tables of stone, containing the law of Jehovah. God's faithful ones saw the light that shone forth to them from the law, to be given to the world. And now Satan's intense activity is to close that door of light; but Jesus says that no man can shut it. Men will turn from the light, denounce it, and despise it, but it still shines forth in clear, distinct rays to cheer and bless all who will see it.

God's children will have a fierce conflict with the adversary of souls, and it will become more exceedingly bitter as we approach the close of the conflict. But the Lord will help those who stand in defence of His truth.


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Brothers and Sisters, it is TRUE that we MUST believe, we MUST have faith! HOWEVER... the Bible teaches that we will PROVE that we have genuine belief, genuine faith... BY OUR WORKS!

Jms:2:14: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Jms:2:17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Jms:2:18: Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Jms:2:20: But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Now NOTICE who is it that will come forth from the graves to everlasting life... is it they who profess to "Believe" in Jesus? No, read carefully...

John 5: 24: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25: Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26: For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27: And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29: And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

1Jn:2:28: And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

How do we show that we "abide" in Him? Note that the verses below explain how to tell whether or not you are "abiding" in Jesus and He in you:

1Jn:3:6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

"If a man love Me," Christ said, "he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John 14:23.

To "abide" in Christ, you must "die to self" and no longer walk in the flesh... Jn:12:24: Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. (that would be the fruits of the Spirit)

1Jn:3:14: We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

1Jn:2:10: He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

1Jn:3:24: And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jn:2:6: He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

You do not see any "just believe" there do you? What we hear about abiding in Christ is... he who sinneth not, he who keeps My words, he who dies to self, he who loves the brethren, he who keeps the commandments, he who walks as Jesus walked... it is THEY who are abiding in Christ! Remember, John clearly said that ONLY if you abide in Him, will you have confidence at Jesus' second coming! The wicked shall be consumed with the glory of His brightness. 1Jn:2:28: And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
2Thes:2:8: "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming." Sin and all those who cling to sin will be consumed!

The wicked, they who choose to cling to their sins and not let them go, will be heading for the hills and begging the mountains to fall on them to shield them from Christ! They will NOT have confidence. And why? ...obviously because they were NOT abiding in Him!

Luke 23:27-30: "And there followed him a great company of people, and of women, which also bewailed and lamented him. But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us."

Isaiah 2:16-21: "And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. And the idols he shall utterly abolish. And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

You are either going to get rid of your sins and your idols NOW or else you will do it LATER, when it is too late! And if you expect to have confidence before God in that day, you MUST abide in Jesus... ALONE!

Let me put this in very simple terms. You MUST cling to Jesus alone for merit, for salvation. You MUST not trust to your own works for salvation. Anything you offer to God in the way of good works to gain salvation will be rejected as "filthy rags". Period! HOWEVER, you CANNOT cling to Jesus with one hand and cling to sin with the other! Drop it! Cling to Jesus with BOTH HANDS! Let His Holy Spirit dwell in you, abide in you and you abide in Him... CLING TO HIM... and the fruits of the Spirit (love, etc) will appear... NOT SIN!

1Jn:3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOETH righteousness IS righteous, even as he is righteous.

1Jn:3:18: My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

Brothers and Sisters, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU! Do not allow anybody to convince you that works have nothing to do with your salvation. This is a terrible deception, and this "works do not matter" lie comes from Satan himself.

I John 3:14,15: We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Can we earn salvation? "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-10.

What experience must we have to receive this free gift? "Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.’" John 3:3. And we already have seen that to be "born again" we must love God and love our neighbor, which is a summary of the ten commandments (Romans 13:8-10).

In conclusion, many Christians want to hear the smooth words of a false prophet. It has ALWAYS been that way! But a true prophet will tell you THE TRUTH. True prophets will make you uncomfortable in your sins, they will not present to you a smooth message, lulling you into that sense of false security. True prophets will always point you to Jesus AND to the Law of God. On the other hand, false prophets who speak smooth words to the people will always cause the people to rest easy in their sins, and make them think sin to be a light matter:

Jeremiah 6:13-16 For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely. They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD. Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein." (the "old paths" refer to the ten commandments)


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"...he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended (summarized) in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. " Romans 13:8,9:

Note that Paul said AND IF THERE BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT... this includes the 4th commandment... the Sabbath commandment!

[ November 15, 2004, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: Claudia_T ]

 

I just wanted to add that it's strange how if you ask Christians "Now that you are a Christian are you free to commit adultery? NO they say, of course not! Are you free to kill your neighbor? NO of course not, they say...

are you free now to steal from your neighbor, to worship idols? NO of course not they say..

But when you get to that Sabbath Commandment and ask if they need to keep THAT commandment suddenly they are under grace and say they need not keep that particular one.

Do you know why? I will tell you why. It is God's Sign... the sign that tells us He is our Creator... and we are accountable to Him. That is why Satan hates that commandment so much.

God has an extremely important message to give to His people in these last days of Earth's history! In fact, this message is so important that we see three special angels flying in the midst of heaven to deliver it to the entire world. Those who reject this message will receive the dreaded Mark of the Beast and they receive a devastating punishment for doing so. It is referred to in Revelation Chapter 14 as The Everlasting Gospel (verse 6). The momentous events described in Revelation 14 are portrayed as occurring right before the second coming of Christ, otherwise known as "The Harvest" (see Rev. 14:14-20 and compare with Matt.13:30).

Now let's take a closer look at the Three Angel's Messages, for they concern us all:


Revelation Chapter 14:
6: And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7: Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8: And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9: And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10: The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12: Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

After the warning against the worship of the beast and his image the prophecy declares: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Since those who keep God's commandments are thus placed in contrast with those that worship the beast and his image and receive his mark, it follows that the keeping of God's law, on the one hand, and its violation, on the other, will make the distinction between the worshipers of God and the worshipers of the beast. And so obviously, those who do receive the Mark of the Beast will have no regard for the commandments of God, while at the same time, God's people do observe them.

Friends, do you see that if we will just allow the Bible to explain itself, that it becomes easy to understand what it means? Instead of imagining all sorts of theories about what it means, we need to let God reveal the truth to us by comparing scripture with scripture. 1Cor:2:13: Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Now let's examine this in even more detail.... Revelation 14 verse 9 says that those who receive the Mark of the Beast will receive it in their forehead or in their hand. Interestingly enough, in Deuteronomy 6 verses 1-8 we read that God told His people to keep His commandments. Notice that they are told that the commandments of God are to be a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes (on their forehead)!


Deut. 6:
1: Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them
5: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6: And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart
8: And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Thus we have now learned that God's commandments were as a sign or "Mark" on the forehead or hand of His people, while the Mark of the Beast would be His sign or "Mark" on the forehead or hand of his people. Not only that, but this evil mark would involve a disregard for the commandments of God.

We will take note now of Rev. verses 6 and 7:

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The Angel just now quoted right straight out of one of the ten commandments. Does anybody recognize which of the commandments? No? -well let me show you:


Exodus 20:
8: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
The Angel just reminded us to worship God, our Creator, that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters, quoting from the 4th commandment... the Sabbath command! Amazing! And so this "Beast" must hate it when God's people keep His commandments and especially when they recognize Him as their Creator, as we are admonished to do in the 4th commandment.





What is the Seal of God?
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." Revelation 7:1-3.

Well friends, what is God's "seal?" A seal has to do with legal affairs. Laws are created, and they are stamped with the seal of the ruling government. A seal consists of three parts:


The name of the ruler.

The ruler's title.

The territory over which he rules.

When the government seal is placed upon a law, or on currency, it then becomes "official". The nation that is loyal to that government who made the law is to stand behind the law. In the same way, God's seal makes His law official, and the whole loyal universe is to then stand behind it!

Anyone who is disloyal to the seal of that government, and to the law upon which it is placed, is looked upon as being disloyal to the government itself. God's seal is also placed in His law. "Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples." Isaiah 8:16.

We just read that the seal of God was to be placed in the forehead of God's faithful and loyal people as well. His law is in our hearts and in our MINDS (forehead). Under the new covenant, God's promise is this: "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those day, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them." Hebrews 10:16.

The Holy Spirit who is the one who "seals" us, places the seal of God in our foreheads if we allow it. We now have God's law in our minds, in our conscience, --and we are loyal to it, showing that we are also loyal to the Creator, the Ruler, who Himself declared that we must keep it!

Just as a government ruler uses his "seal" of government to enforce the laws of the land, God uses His "seal" to enforce His law. And at the same time, the Beast will use his seal or mark, to try to enforce his law in the place of God's.

If the 7th day Sabbath is indeed God's seal, then we ought to be able to find the three different parts of a seal within that commandment, correct? Indeed it is there, let's take a close look:

"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work . . . For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it." Exodus 20:8-11.

This is the only place in the Bible where you will find God's seal. Here are the three parts of the seal.


His name - "the Lord."

His title - "thy God" (Creator).

His territory - "heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is."
Isn't that amazing? And we ought to expect then that the Beast power would work very hard to hide the truth of the sacred Sabbath from us. After all, it is God's sign or seal!

You may ask, Is the Sabbath really the seal of God? Look at Ezekiel 20:12. "Moreover also I gave them my Sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them." "And hallow my Sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord your God." Ezekiel 20:12,20. Note that the word "sign" means the same as "seal" --see Romans 4:11.





The Elijah Message
The coming of the bridegroom was at midnight--the very darkest hour (Matt. 25:6). So too will the coming of Christ take place in the darkest period of this earth's history. The days of Noah and Lot pictured the condition of the world just before the coming of the Son of man. The Scriptures pointing forward to this time tell us that Satan will work with all power and "with all deceivableness of unrighteousness." 2 Thess. 2:9, 10. His working is plainly revealed by the rapidly increasing darkness, the multitudinous errors, heresies, and delusions of these last days. Satan is leading the world captive, yes --but his deceptions are affecting even the professed churches of our Lord Jesus Christ! This great apostasy from the truths of the Scriptures will develop into darkness deep as midnight.

But at this terrible dark time of earth's history, God has a special message to give to the world that is not unlike that given by God's servant Elijah. Before the day of the Lord, Elijah was to be sent to the world to warn them. Malachi 4:4-6: "Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD." And what was the message that Elijah gave? "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him." I King 18:21. The Israelites had at that time forsaken God, and turned to the worship of Baal. In this they had departed from God's commandments, and the work of Elijah was to cry out against their worship of Baal, pleading with them to return to the commandments of God.

The Three Angel's Messages of Revelation are a counterpart of that proclaimed by Elijah, because it too calls for people to decide between the worship of the beast and the worship of God (Revelation 14:6-12). This will cause those who understand the sign of the times to cry out against the sinful practices of the people, appealing to them to return to God by keeping His commandments. Revelation 14:9-12: "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation... Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

This prophecy concerning the Elijah message was partially fulfilled in John the Baptist: "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if you will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come." Matt. 11:13,14

Luke 1:16,17: And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord. This spirit and power of Elias was to be manifested "Before the great and dreadful day of the Lord". Malachi 4,5.

In John the Baptist the Lord raised up for Himself a messenger to prepare the way of the Lord at the first coming of Jesus Christ. He was to bear to the world an unflinching testimony in the denunciation of sin. Luke, in announcing John's mission and work, said, "And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord" (Luke 1:17). Many of the Pharisees and Sadducees came to the baptism of John, and addressing these, he said, "O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: and think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father..." Matt 3:7-12.

...so too are the Three Angel's Messages of Revelation the "Elijah Message" of our time, to be given just before the second coming of Christ!





Come out of her, My people
In the Book of Revelation, not only are God's people called to keep His commandments and to avoid receiving the Mark of the Beast, but they are also given the call to "come OUT of Babylon":


Revelation 18:1-4
1: And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2: And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3: For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Now that we know who God's people are... those who keep His commandments and His Sabbath, --the question is, Who or what then is this "Beast" of Revelation chapter 14? And what is "Babylon"; why are God's people called to come out of her? It would make sense that this Beast power would endeavor to somehow change the Sabbath or otherwise try to hide or get rid of it in some way, right? ...you would be correct in your assumption if that thought crossed your mind. The prophetic book of Daniel also identifies him here:

Dan:7:25: And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws.

Yes, this wicked being would think to change the very law of God... --the Sabbath, God's Seal! As a matter of fact, the prophet Isaiah, when prophesying about the end of time when the wicked would be destroyed, gave the very reason why it was that God was so angry with them: Isa:24:5: "The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance , broken the everlasting covenant."

 

When you speak of keeping the Law, are you speaking about just the ten commandments or every command God ever gave?

Do you keep this commandment......?

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind"

If you answer No, you will not be saved according to you exposition, for you do not uphold the law.

If you answer Yes, you will not be saved according to your exposition, for you will be judged a liar, thus breaking yet another law.

Your doctrine is a lose-lose proposition.

The law always condemns. It is how we learn to trust in the promisses of Christ Alone. Believe and thou shalt be saved!

Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

What law did Abraham exercise before God imputed righteousness unto him?

God is searching for Friends. He already sees that none can keep the law. In fact He gave the law to prove this that He might have mercy upon all who believe in Jesus Christ and His works alone.

God Bless!

 

You quote Lev 19:18 - the Levitical Law and ask if I choose to rebell against it or keep it?

I choose not to rebel.

I guess we differ there.

Read James 2.

"So LIVE and ACT as those who are to be judged BY the Law of Liberty" the law is quoted in that chapter BTW -

Read Romans 2
"Not the HEARERS of the Law but the DOERS WILL BE Justfied"

Read Romans 3
"Do we then make VOID the Law of God by our faith - God forbid! In Fact we establish the Law of God"!

Read John 14
"IF you Love Me KEEP My Commandments" - that would be the pre-cross Commandments of God ... a good thing not to choose to rebel against.

As for your point that God's continued authorotative law points out sin - no question. Points out our continued need of forgiveness -- no question.

But - is abolished?? (How could it still function if abolished?).

But - "is a sign of rebellion to keep"?? - Never is that said in all of scripture, though I thank you for the quote.

In Christ,

Bob

 

If you will kindly reread my question, I did not ask what you say. You replace my question with your own and then answer as if you are answering mine.

I'll try once again.

Do you keep this commandment......?

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind"

I also asked....

When you speak of keeping the Law, are you speaking about just the ten commandments or every command God ever gave?


God Bless!

 

I am not an SDA, but a Calvinist - a free-grace believer - and I believe the Seventh Day Sabbath. NOT because of the Law, but because it says, "the Sabbath of the LORD your God" - who cannot change, and never could become a God who is not the LORD of the Sabbath Day. I believe the Sabbath Day and I believe the LAW was nailed to the cross - the whole law and all law, in fact THE ONE AND ONLY LAW, "IN HIM". That very LAW also was raised from the dead and in that very act provided the completion to all the works of God and the final redemption to all his creation : GOD entering into His own REST. That is, GOD, in CHRIST. ANd He raised Him from the dead "ON THE SABBATH"! (NOT "on the First Day of the week"). Now this whole and finished redemption in Christ - the work of GOD ONLY - is the reason, the essence and the grounds for the writer to exclaim in awe: "THEREFORE there remains Sabbath-keeping for the PEOPLE of God".
The Christian who denies the Sabbath its God-given "importance", denies God's own free will in acting the way He did.
Gerhard

 

Dear Steaver,
You are so against the Sabbath (the only one there is). But don't you for every time a Sabbath-keeper LIVES his Sabbath-faith, yourslef, every time, LIVE YOUR, Sunday-faith? Don't you each time with ot without words, defend and fight for your holy day - Sunday - each time you fight and argue against the Seventh Day Sabbath (so by the buy the Sabbath of the LORD your God)?
You do! and you cannot deny unless through acting JUST like you act against the Sabbath, against Sunday and the LIFE OF THE CHURCH ON SUNDAY, and by Sunday, and truly in Sunday. For without this Sunday-life of the Church, there is NO church!

 

Peter said that prophets speak via the Holy Spirit and that this is speaking "from God".

Christ said that the Holy Spirit takes HIS Words and gives them to mankind.

So you are right - but that does not stop the 1Cor 12 gifts of the Spirit - the Gift of Prophecy from continuing to this very second - using your definition. I don't see how this helps you make your case. In fact your case falls apart on that definition for John.

No. In 1Cor 14 we find a church filled with Prophets but no "miracle" listed.

Besides - are you now arguing that the NT form of prophecy includes Miracles??? If so you just shot your own argument that the NT form is simply teaching the Bible.

John fortold the future. Paul foretold the future. Agabus foretold the future. Peter foretold the future, Jude foretold the future... Which of these NT prophets are you limiting to the OT??

Ellen White foretold the future and she gave instruction/guidance on doctrine and on lifestyle behavior etc. The same kind of thing you find all inspired writers doing.

The point is that there are a number of prophets mentioned in the NT that are not Bible writers and the gift of prophecy is unchanged between OT and NT.

Also one of the tests of a prophet is that the message they claim to have from God must be validated by scripture.

What part of Doctrines and Covenants and Pearl of Great priced did YOU find to be Biblical???

You are right - "without knowing anything about Joseph Smith" and SDA would have to at least "look" to know if he is a false prophet.

But that is in obedience to the command in 1Cor 14 that we are not to reject prophets and also in obedience to 1John 4 instructing us to test the prophets to see if they are from God.

Some think the test is "are you a prophet? Ok then you are a false one". No such test is given in scripture.

In Christ,

Bob

 

I think the church does exist with or without a Sunday or Sabbath gathering. We isolate our thoughts to this country or countries which allow gatherings. Many places around the globe do not and I am sure that they do not squabble over which day they are going to get together and do a bible study or sing some songs. They meet when they have opportunity.

Hi Bob,

I am not trying just to argue. I have some questions that I would like answered. I ask questions to learn, not to prove myself right because I might not be right! I just look for solid facts and I just don't see any good proof that Ellen White deserves any respect let alone the title "prophet".

What did she foretell??? I asked this from the begining and know one has answered!

You say.....

Then you say.....

Is there a test or not???

I read this test in Deuteronomy 18:22.... "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken.... thou shall not be afraid of him"

So I ask again...what did Ellen foretell which then came to pass?

Also Bob, please answer my previous post about the greatest commandment. (Actually, I would like all "law keepers" to answer it).

God Bless!

 

#1 I did answer your question about the greatest commandment as Christ spoke of BOTH of them pre-cross to the pre-cross saints and BOTH of them turn out to be in the writings of Moses.

Love God with all your heart - Deut 6:5

Love your neighbor as yourself - Lev 19:18.

Quoted by Christ - upheld by Christ.

And "YES" the answer according to MAtt 7 is that we MUST "really" keep them rather than choosing to live in rebellion against God.

That is also the answer of Romans 2:11-13.

In James 2 - he writes that we are to "live and act as those who ARE to be judged by the Law of Liberty" that he just quoted in that SAME chapter.

Your little trick of saying "if you say you reject God's law you are lost and if you say you choose to keep God's law you will be lost" is never used by these Bible authors. RATHER they insist (as in the case of Romans 2) that it is the DOERS of the law that "are justified".

They are not arguing for sinless perfectionism - they are arguing for obedience and submission to the law of God rather than rebellion and arguing against it.

The answer could not be more plain.

In Christ,

Bob

[ November 20, 2004, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: BobRyan ]

 

Ellen Harmon - (later Ellen White) lived from the 1830's to the 1910's. She lived at a time when the following were the norm among Christians in America.

#1. No premillenial 2nd coming.
#2. Medicated Cigarettes
#3. Tuberculosis victims shielded from the harsh outside air.
#4. American Protestant incredibly hostile toward Catholicism
#5. America as a lesser nation power compared to the powers of Europe

Ellen White predicted America would become the single dominant world power.

She predicted that American Protestantism would be foremost in clasping hands with Catholicism and cooperating on points where they find agreement. She predicted a form of spiritism would creep into Christian groups and that Catholicism would be the first to latch on to these apparitions and manifestations. She said American Protestantism would be dragged into this by the bond they forged with Catholicism.

She said that Tuberculosis patients should be exposed to fresh air and had Adventists create Sanitariums for doing that.

She said Cigarettes CAUSED lung damage rather than medicated cigarettes healing lung damage.

Her list of predictions both local and incidental as well as global, national and historic are plentiful.

She describes in detail the fall of Lucifer and his actions in tempting mankind. She describes in detail the end of the world and the part that our nation plays in that scenario.

She even mentions laws being passed in America due to concerns over security.

But - the FIRST and foremost test of a prophet is STILL to test the teachings that they claim as having come from God against scripture.

So, for example, IF you are a Catholic and you suppose that Catholicism is supported by the Bible - then you would find Ellen White to be a false prophet on those "message" she gives that show Purgatory, praying to the dead etc to be false doctrines.

This explains why it is pointless for me to go through all the prophecies of Ellen White with you - when I already insist that the first and foremost test is sola-scriptura - which means you would have to first evaluate the doctrines of the Adventist church sola-scriptura to see IF they are correct. (OR at least the ones that Ellen White mentioned as being supported by some message from God).

In Christ,

Bob

 

Claudia,

Although you probably meant well, posting volumes of material does not help your position. Most (including me) do not read "books" when they are posted.

I do not live under the law. If you choose to do so, that is between you and the Lord.

I live in an area that has a lot of SDA. I am pretty familiar with their stands on most things. And I know that they will argue for hours about observinf=g Saturday as the Sabbath. And I have no problem with that, because Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath.

I, however, am not Jewish, nor do I observe the Sabbath (either Saturday or Sunday). I do observe Sunday as the day in which I gahter with brothers and sisters in Christ to praise and worship my heavenly Father. That you choose Saturday is not a concern for me, and more power to you.

The original poster of this thread is a sadly misled individual, however. Research his posts. His doctrine runs the gamut of SDA, Worldwide Church of God, Judaism, pentecostalism.

In Christ,
Trotter

 

Interesting.

In Isaiah 66 when God says "ALL mankind will come before Me to worship from Sabbath to Sabbath" in the New Earth - is it your intent to correct Him?

In Mark 2:27-28 When Christ says that the Sabbath was "MADE" for mankind - did you mean to say "correction Lord - just for the Jews"?

In Gen 2:3 when God's Word tells us that the 7th day was made a Holy day AS the 7th day of creation week itself - did you have a change you wanted to make there?

In Christ,

Bob

 

Hi Bob,

I went back through our post because I thought maybe I missed your answer since your say you already answered me. Here is what I found;

quote:
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Originally posted by steaver:
When you speak of keeping the Law, are you speaking about just the ten commandments or every command God ever gave?

Do you keep this commandment......?

"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind"

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Your answer....
"You quote Lev 19:18 - the Levitical Law and ask if I choose to rebell against it or keep it?

I choose not to rebel".


I NEVER asked you if you "choose to rebell" against it or keep it.

I asked you simply if "You keep it"? It would be like keeping the commandment not to steal. Do you steal things? I am sure you do not and therefore you certainly do keep this commandment. It is a simple question, no need to re-word it and then answer, just answer yes or no and feel free to elaborate if you want, but answer
"my" question and not any rewrite.

Ok, I withdraw my "little trick". Just answer yes or no.

So are you saying that it took decades before she could be trusted as a prophet from God? Wasn't she followed as a prophet before any of these things came to pass? I guess what I am looking for is the year she was deemed a prophet because an event she foretold, which could not have ever been seen coming, took place.

Is this your opinion or is there scripture?

God Bless!

 

Indeed you missed it. I claimed to choose obedience and I claimed to actually keep God's command. I never claimed to be perfect (I think that was the "trick" you wanted to insert).

The point remains. Choosing to submit and obey is the only path for God's child.

As for you implied point that "only rebellion is possible" - I point out 1Cor 10.

13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.

See Romans 6 for an entire chapter dealing with this idea that you are the slave of the one you find yourself actually obeying.

But getting back to the Commandments of God - this is why I would always choose not to commit adultery or murder or not to break Christ the Creator's Sabbath - His memorial of His own creative act in making mankind.

As for your reference to the law of Moses in Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18 - the Law of love - I am glad that you see it as something to be kept - to obey rather than to rebell against.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Bob lists a small set of the predictions/prophecies given by Ellen White and shows the contrast of those statements with the current Christian views of her day.

quote:
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#1. No premillenial 2nd coming.
#2. Medicated Cigarettes
#3. Tuberculosis victims shielded from the harsh outside air.
#4. American Protestant incredibly hostile toward Catholicism
#5. America as a lesser nation power compared to the powers of Europe

Ellen White predicted America would become the single dominant world power.

She predicted that American Protestantism would be foremost in clasping hands with Catholicism and cooperating on points where they find agreement. She predicted a form of spiritism would creep into Christian groups and that Catholicism would be the first to latch on to these apparitions and manifestations. She said American Protestantism would be dragged into this by the bond they forged with Catholicism.

She said that Tuberculosis patients should be exposed to fresh air and had Adventists create Sanitariums for doing that.

She said Cigarettes CAUSED lung damage rather than medicated cigarettes healing lung damage.

Her list of predictions both local and incidental as well as global, national and historic are plentiful.

She describes in detail the fall of Lucifer and his actions in tempting mankind. She describes in detail the end of the world and the part that our nation plays in that scenario.

She even mentions laws being passed in America due to concerns over security.
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Her first vision (late teens) was of the people of God being led by Christ. She also had a vision about the work of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary.

Those were the first ones that she had - and the group that was forming - was not forming around her visions - they were forming around a doctrinal point regarding the work of Christ as our High Priest.

In the book of Daniel - we are not told to "Wait for the vision in Daniel 7" to pan out before accepting Daniel.

But you counter with "I want to see how long they waited for Daniel to say something as having come from God that could not ever be seen AND see that the future event came to pass - before Daniel was fully accepted as a prophet".

In your position so far - you treat fullfillment as the only test. That would have made the acceptance of Daniel as a prophet "A tough one".

You need to consider that there are about half a dozen tests of a prophet in scripture.

quote:Bob comments on the tests of a prophet
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But - the FIRST and foremost test of a prophet is STILL to test the teachings that they claim as having come from God against scripture.
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Isaiah 8:20

1John 4:1-3

1 Cor 14:31-32

1John 4:6

In Christ,

Bob

 

Thanks for the scripture Bob!

This confirms that I too am a prophet!

God Bless!