1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

93% Muslims voted for Kerry

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by LadyEagle, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2002
    Messages:
    22,028
    Likes Received:
    1
    Perhaps you would like to go to Iraq and help "negotiate" with the terrorists who are holding hostages to be beheaded. Maybe you would be the perfect American to do just that and you can pave the way for peace and understanding in the planet. [​IMG]
     
  2. JesusandGeorge04

    JesusandGeorge04 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    Or perhaps we all should stop and examine just how we live so well on a planet of such poverty... maybe because we use other people for our material convienence? How do you think they feel?

    Empathy, people.
     
  3. Hardsheller

    Hardsheller Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2002
    Messages:
    3,817
    Likes Received:
    2
    Poverty is not what is motivating Jihad in the Middle East. Wise up!
     
  4. OrovilleTim

    OrovilleTim New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sadly, it's a hatred of the Jews, and any who aid them.
     
  5. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    873
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Then they are totally void of any common sense!!
    Jesus IS NOT a great prophet, or a wise teacher, or a moral leader or a good spiritual role model.

    He is one of three things, and I don't see any option beyond these three!

    1) A liar & con artist

    2) A mentally deranged fool

    3) Who he says He is

    This is a man who claims to be God. Anybody brave enough to publically make that claim has got to fit one of the three.

    Therefore you either accept who He says He is, or you're a bigger fool for believing in Him as worthy of admiration or respect.

    And this goes for anybody, not just Islam.
     
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    At least you're being consistent, because several folks on this board would never say the same thing about the Jews in regards to their belief in Jesus.

    That being said, whether one has accepted or rejected Christ doesn't make one any more or less in need of his blood than anyone else. I have accepted Christ, and, being, as Paul said, a chief of sinners, I need Christ now more than I ever have.
     
  7. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    873
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I was under the impression that the Jews thought Jesus was just a charlatan. Is this wrong?

    Did I imply otherwise? If so I apologise; I certainly did not mean to.
     
  8. proddavid

    proddavid New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2004
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    JWP Your are right Jesus was the Son of God. He was neither of which you speak. He was the only one to come forth from the tomb where He was laid.Outside the Bible over 14 sources record people meeting Jesus after His resurrection. You better really read somethings.

    The radical factions of Islam do hate the infidels thats about everyone and they wait for their messiah Isa to come and have their version of the End Times. They even know what he looks like down to the hair colour. They say that the Jewish people distorted everything and so did the Christians. They want their version of the Truth as their prophet stated. So who is the greater fool? Jewish people have been in their Holy City for a long time, only they never had any political rights or were they a nation. The fact that they Jewish people remain who they are should tell you something.

    How about the historical evidence? One, the Jewish people are a historical people. You can dig up their ruins and trace them through a number of ancient texts, even outside the Bible. So Jesus came through a historical people who looked for a coming messiah, that since Moses and the first Passover. These are documented historical events. What do you think that millions of Jews celebrate Passover because they need something to do on that day? So the Tigres and Eurphrates river do not flow either? Go to the archeaologists and seek the answer. Joesph was in Paroah's favour for its all over some the Eyptian writings in several finds. Everytime they look at the Bible it proves itself.

    How could so many writers over a long period, thousands of years, write within the same context and theme?

    Islam comes around 600 years after Christ and has no historical roots, though they claim them. Was Islam there when Israel went to Babalyon? No it was not. Paganism was. Was it there when Chist died and rose. No, it was not. Rome was there and so was their paganism. So it has no history comparatively.


    This crazy man, as you put it, rose from the dead!
     
  9. StraightAndNarrow

    StraightAndNarrow Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2003
    Messages:
    2,508
    Likes Received:
    3
  10. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh no, you did not imply otherwise. I was just expounding on what you had said, and wasn't disagreeing with you at all. [​IMG]
     
  11. JesusandGeorge04

    JesusandGeorge04 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have you ever seen a Palestinian city?

    Wise up!
     
  12. JesusandGeorge04

    JesusandGeorge04 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    Problem is, the Trilemma doesn't work. First, it assumes that the accounts are 100% accurate in the sense that you are interpreting them as. Second, you are using modern perspectives on sanity that cannot be applied to those living in a time and place of magic and revelation; claims of Christ's sort were fairly common, and not absurd notions by any means. Third, strong belief can makes falsehoods into truth in the eyes of those who are devout, desperate, etc.; even if there was a deliberate lie to catch the ear of the nonebeliever, the teachings of Christ are worth well enough to forgive the fib.

    So, Lewis's delimma isn't one.
     
  13. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    22,050
    Likes Received:
    1,858
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Medved says that there are 4 groups who think that they are victims and vote Democrat. They are gays, Jews, Blacks, and Muslims.
     
  14. corinne

    corinne New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Muslims bellieve that Jesus did not die on the cross but that he went on to live his life as a respected prophet, they do not believe he is God. Therefore they are in total contradiction with our belief that Jesus is the Christ and is God. If Jesus Christ is our God, he cannot be the Muslims' Allah.

    God and Allah are therefore two different concepts. We are triniteists whereas muslims are monotheists.

    Bush implying that christians and muslims pray to the same God shows clearly that he is not a true Christian, as he does acknowledge by saying this that Jesus Christ would not be God, but simply a version of Allah.

    Corinne
    http://www.christianresistance.com
     
  15. corinne

    corinne New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Since when have Muslims spit on Christ? They may not revere him as Lord, but they do respect him... not something that a merciful God would create needless suffering over! </font>[/QUOTE]Muslims do not believe in Christ. They respect Jesus the man as a prophet and outstanding human being, but that is all. they do not spit on Jesus, that is for sure. As for Christ they have no idea what it is all about.

    Corinne
     
  16. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,400
    Likes Received:
    553
    Faith:
    Baptist
    And no matter if 93% voted for Kerry, 100% will die and go to hell in their pagan and false religion.

    We need to stop and be reminded to pray for the 1,200,000,000 Muslims alive today.

    Now, back to the discussion . . . [​IMG]
     
  17. JesusandGeorge04

    JesusandGeorge04 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    And as they are either hated, disenfranchised, or both... I would agree, as the Democratic party has moved to address their issues more than the Republicans.
     
  18. JesusandGeorge04

    JesusandGeorge04 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2004
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    But many denominations and sects of Christianity disagree on these points, which are not well supported by scripture; the Trinity is pretty shakey all around (coming from Catholic dogma from the fourth century), while the naming of Christ the Son of God is mostly a concept that comes out of John, and not the other Gospels. I can understand why others wouldn't jump on board... and if they carry out Christ's work anyway, why should we reject them?

    But 'Allah' simply means 'Lord' in their language! They directly link their God to ours... and accept what scripture came before their doctrines, with some different interpretation.

    Not a good reason to exclude, and even if they were completely wrong, why not use their faith as a springboard into our own?
     
  19. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Messages:
    43,045
    Likes Received:
    1,647
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You don't believe that Christ Jesus is the Son of God?
     
Loading...