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What is the Purpose of the Millennium?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Mel Miller, May 11, 2006.

  1. Mel Miller

    Mel Miller New Member

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    Purpose of the Millennium

    My dear sir,

    You have not yet given a Scripture that refutes the word of the Lord Himself
    that "He will raise up all believers on the last day and that this will occur on
    one of the days after the great tribulation"! Those whom He raises up He will
    also "gather from the uttermost part of earth to the uttermost part of heaven
    immediately after the great tribulation". Mark 13:24; Matt.24:29.

    On behalf of the word of the Lord Himself, I await any scriptural reference
    you may find to support your claim that "ONLY tribulation martyrs" will be
    raised up in the "first resurrection".

    I have waited long enough for you to come up with any refutation of John 6:38-40 and Mark 13:24-27.

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net
     
  2. StraightAndNarrow

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    You haven't answered my interpretation that MA 25 is about the Final Judgement not the millenium. What say you?

    Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:Mat 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:Mat 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?Mat 25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?Mat 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?Mat 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
     
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  3. Mel Miller

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    Purpose of the Millennium

    StraightAndNarrow,

    Yes, indeed, I believe the separation of the sheep and goat nations is a "final
    judgment" of the nations at the end of the Millennium after Christ "sits on His throne". There is no scriptural statement that this separation occurs at the start of the Millennium!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The only judgment seat at the time of Christ's second coming is that which
    renders unto every/all believers the "reward that Jesus brings with Him on
    one of the days after the great tribulation" ... just as Jesus promised. Matt.16:27; Rev.22:12. :thumbs:

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net
     
  4. DeafPosttrib

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    Miller,

    Matthew 25:31-46 does not saying, it will be occur at the end of millennial, because it doesn't saying, 'a thousand years'. Clear, Matthew 25:31-46 teaching us, the judgment day will be follow at the coming of Christ with his angels. This passage tells us, there is the only one judgment day, not two or three judgment days according dispensationism's teaching.

    Myself was a premill before. Till I became amill only about 5 years ago. Because I can see Bible teaches us, there is only one judgment day, and all unbelievers will be destroyed, no one will be remain left into the kingdom of God beyond Lord's coming.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  5. Mel Miller

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    Purpose of the Millennium

    DeafPostTrib,

    Please tell me what Scripture caused you to believe in a Judgment of ALL
    unbelievers at the return of Christ rather than at the End of Christ's 1000-year reign on the earth?

    How did you get by the clear teaching that "God will show mercy to all" after He
    reveals Messiah coming to earth and the Gentiles have demonstrated that they, just like the Jews, will have disobeyed the Gospel and rebelled en masse against Him?

    When do you conceive that "all men will know the Lord, from the least to the
    greatest" as part of the fulfillment of the New Covenant? And how do you also change your view of the "first resurrection" as referring to our spiritual birth rather than a physical resurrection of our bodies at the second coming?

    Thank you kindly.

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net
     
  6. StraightAndNarrow

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    :thumbs:I don't understand how you get that interpretation from MA 25. Explain why "all nations" doesn't mean everyone.
     
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    Purpose of the Millennium

    StraightAndNarrow,

    My Quote:
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    Yes, indeed, I believe the separation of the sheep and goat nations is a "final
    judgment" of the nations at the end of the Millennium after Christ "sits on His throne". There is no scriptural statement that this separation occurs at the start of the Millennium!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Your Quote:
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    How can you get that interpretation from MA 25? Explain why "all nations" doesn't mean everyone.
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    Zecariah 14:16 reveals that, when Christ comes to be King over the nations, "those left of the NATIONS coming against Jerusalem" are not immediately judged to determine whether they will be sheep or goats.

    All men, individually or by groups in a ratio of "ten gentiles to each Jew" (Zech.8:23), must come to Jerusalem to worship God annually. If they do not they will not receive rain for their crops.

    Those who finally are cast into Hell as "goat nations" will be judged (not on an
    individual basis of faith in Christ) but on whether they "keep God's commandments and therefore have the right to eternal access to the tree of life" as promised to those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. Rev.22:14; KJV and Rev.21:27.

    The saved (sheep) nations have the right to enter the New Jerusalem at any time
    after the New Heaven and Earth and will still need to be "healed by the leaves of the tree of life" just as they must do during the Millennial period until the last enemy, "death", has been destroyed. Rev.21:24-26; Ezek.47:12; Rev.22:2.

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net
     
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    Pre-Endtime, Endtime and Lastday Events

    Friends,

    In three weeks during May we had 7 pages and 66 postings on the Purpose of the Millennium. I was surprised that no one took issue with me on the difference between the Kingdom to be inherited by the "saved nations" at the end of the
    Millennium and the Bride of the Lamb who will "inherit and inhabit" the New Jerusalem for all eternity. Rev.21:7,9; Rev.22:2,14.

    Is this such a strange doctrine? If so, it should have elicited some reaction.
    If not, it should have found some approval. The fact that the sheep who "inherit the new earth will fulfill God's will thereon even as the Bribe fulfills His will in heaven" offers an intriguing prospect for both the nations and the Bride of the Lamb.

    The obvious difference between the two derives from the fact that the nations saved during the Millennium "have the right to enter the New Jerusalem at any time to be healed by the leaves of the Tree of Life"; whereas the Bride of the Lamb will have access to their 12 kinds of fruit as its eternal inhabitants. Each of the two groups has a different place of inheritance; but all will be named in the Lamb's Book of Life. Rev.21:24-27.

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net :thumbs:
     
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