In Context reading of scriptures

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[ November 23, 2004, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: DHK ]

 

You have been given that power.

No doubt you prove the abuse of it. Its manifest to all except the very one doing it.

God really does know what He's doing

The Author proves you are typical of the hurtful men He speaks of.

Can't touch me. you can only ban me. I fear for the souls under your care. Conformed into your image?

God holds the LEADERSHIP to a GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY.

He blamed the Jews for being BLASPHEMED among the gentiles. He took his kingdom away from them and gave it TO THEM.

What a Great God we have.

In Him

Seth3

 

I live in it. I adore it.

But I glory more in the one it testifies to.

Seth3

 

Heres where this person draws their perspective. Apparently scripture speaks of these things. Comparing Spiritual with Spiritual. You look at it and when your familiar with the words God uses and in the context within each picture it shows a spiritual truth.

Do I see "everything" this person shows? Not at all. Do I agree with what this person shows in the Spirit of it (conclusion) despite the words. Yes alot of it. Jus because I don't "get" everything doesn't make me discard everything. Scriptures say TEST everything, HOLD FAST to that which is good.

Ofcourse there is way more to this. Its copy pasted from the the place I retreived it from for discussion.

Heres where this person draws their references.


And it came to pass after this, that Benhadad king of Syria gathered all his host, and went up, and besieged Samaria. And there was a great famine in Samaria: and, behold, they besieged it, until an ASS’S HEAD was sold for fourscore pieces of silver, and the fourth part of a cab of DOVE'S DUNG for five pieces of silver. And...This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. SO WE BOILED MY SON, AND DID EAT HIM: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him..." (II Kings 6:24-25, 28-29).


Rather than eating the rich Word of God's holy Kingdom, the Bread, the substance of Jesus Christ, people are being fed a steady diet of ASSES’ HEADS! This is clearly seen as THE KNOWLEDGE OF MAN, which has been one of the primary food sources to the church for a long time. It has become such a common dish that most have come to like it, especially since it satisfies the carnal man.


Regardless of what they say, their words are often born of the spirit that says, "Come hell or high water, we will do it our way!" Without a doubt, a large portion of the visible church has become a twin sister to those Jeremiah soundly rebuked: "A WILD ASS used to the wilderness, in her heat SNIFFING the wind! Who can restrain her lust? None who seek her need weary themselves; in her month they will find her" (Jer. 2:24, RSV).


Job also had something to say concerning these infamous creatures: "Men remove landmarks (the established boundaries of Christ's Kingdom); they seize flocks (from the sheepfold of the Lord) and pasture them (in their own fields of knowledge). Behold, like wild asses in the desert they go forth to their toil, seeking prey in the wilderness as food for their children" (Job 24:2, 5; parentheses added for emphasis).


"For the palace will be forsaken, the populous city deserted (of the Spirit and the righteous ones); the hill and the watchtower will become dens...of wild asses...until the Spirit is poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness becomes a fruitful field, and the fruitful field is deemed a forest" (Isa. 32:14-15, RSV).


Hosea, the last prophet to the northern kingdom, spoke accurately of today's religious Samaria: "Israel is swallowed up; already they are among the nations as a useless vessel" (Hosea 8:8). And there is a reason the church has come to this: "For they have gone up to Assyria (worldliness), a wild ass wandering alone; Ephraim has hired lovers (idol worship)" (Hosea 8:9). Religion as a whole has become like the one she has lain with; namely, Ishmael, the father of the Arabic tribes: "...HE SHALL BE A WILD ASS OF A MAN" (Gen. 16:12, Rotherham).


In type of Hosea's wife, we see an epic picture of what has happened to the wayward church. She has truly become a harlot, a wild ass in heat. She has not exceeded man's wisdom, his stubbornness, nor has she resisted his adamant rebellion. Rather than overcoming and living honorably, she has given herself to all the wiles of the flesh. In a word, she has not become one with Jesus, her espoused husband. Neither have we seen her entering New Jerusalem they way Jesus enter Jerusalem of old. He came riding upon an ass and her colt that had never been ridden before — signifying victory over Hagar (bondage) and her offspring, the wild ass of a man. Jesus demonstrated absolute victory over all bondage of that present age (Hagar, the mother ass), as well as the STUBBORN ass of the new (Ishmael, the colt).


Seth3 adds (in the context this person shares going back into the article it talks about idolotry.

In

1Samuel 15:23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and STUBBORNESS IS AS iniquity and IDOLOTRY.

The Stubbornness of thw wild ass as described in this persons description shows the IDOLOTRY as STUBBORNNESS.

The use of ISHMAEL types the FIRSTBORN and that Paul says is the NATURAL MAN (is first) In types Cain and Ishmael type that of the flesh. In Ishmeal is seen the use of ASS so it agrees too.
Try testing it.

In This scripture agrees with this point.

In Him

Seth3

 

Yes and if WISDOM is Christ how does SHE hewn her seven pillars?

Spritual truths, who were reputed to be PILLARS in the House of God.

Egypt is it simply Egypt? Letter of the word?

Jerusalem, is it simply Jerusalem? Revelation says the city where our Lord is crucified is SPIRITUALLY CALLED SODOM EGYPT.

Heres tossing that out the window, basically according to the literal sense you can find nothing further in your veiw.

Tower of babel? The past or in Christ?

When Christ was walking among men is WHEN he truly confounded the language THERE.

Why do you think He says, "Why is not my language Clear to you"?

They were not His Sheep. His Sheep HEAR HIS VOICE. Others only the SOUND OF THE LORD.

Sound and Voice.

The Stone the BUILDERS REJECTED in Genesis is THERE in what is SPIRITUALLY CALLED SODOM EGYPT.

BRICK =MAN made doctrines for Stone=Christ
SLIME for the TEMPERED MOTAR OF LOVE.

Study is beautiful if you can pull from it and understand spiritual truths.

In Him

Seth3

 

Unfortunately you can't throw things together. Its correctly interpreted IN CHRIST to whom they Speak.

Otherwise your left with reasoning out of your head making excuses for men calling on the name of the Lord in Genesis when Paul said NTHER NAME HAD EVER BEEN GIVEN SAVE THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

So which is it?

But if you can find the entire picture of the Cross of Christ in Genesis and His words hidden there you know the Spirit just drew up to you out of it the Testimony of Christ.


In Him

Seth3

 

Scripture says its Christ, your not sharing from scripture your sharing from your head or what others sold you and bought it. Christ says they speak of Him. God hid Christ in His foreknowledge. I see Him there you see History great. You keep the literal history I keep the treasures of Christ in them. I believe I have the better part though. I learn more of my precious savior hidden in the text. God Keeps watch over knowledge. I love that.


DHK says

Proper Bible exposition is vital to one's spiritual growth.


Seth3 replies,

And you "think" this works for you? Its evidenced by... what??

I believe its a heart for the Lord.

But technically I believe scriptures indicate a Spirit of Wisdom and revelation for insight. And ofcourse studying to show yourself approved unto God. I believe scripture shows us what we need.

In Him

Seth3

 

I agree with all these scriptures theres not one I do not disagree with. There are some I want to understand better.

But when it comes to doctrine Its Christ and Him crucified.

Christ is my doctrine, and Love is the Fruit of the faith in Him. His command is Love. Against love is no law. What else is there but Christ? When you come to Christ, ofcourse theres a love for his words, you study, treasure his words. You begin to discern the Body of Christ and know by His Spirit those that are His.

In Him

Seth3

[ November 24, 2004, 02:24 AM: Message edited by: DHK ]