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Women at the pulpit

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by atestring, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. atestring

    atestring New Member

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    Kay Arthur and Joni Erikson Tada are women that speak in pulpits. How does this match up the idea of Conservatives, that believe that women should be quite in the Church?
    Did Lottie Moon and Annie Armstrong ever stand in a pulpit and speak?
     
  2. gb93433

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    There is a difference between a pastor and a woman who has the blessing of the pastor to speak in the church he pastors.
     
  3. mioque

    mioque New Member

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    Indeed I have spoken from my church's pulpit numerous times. It simply is the only spot in my church from which one can adress a large number of people.

    What I have never done is preach.
     
  4. atestring

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    Does this allow for women Evangelist?
     
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    hillclimber New Member

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    I see nothing wrong in these examples.

    But a woman assuming the duties of a pastor is wrong. Eve was deceived by the serpent, and to this day the woman is still susceptable to that same deceit and should not be a pastor. satan knew which one to approach in the garden of Eden.

    Adam on the other hand was not deceived. He went along with it with the knowledge that it was against God.
     
  6. PastorGreg

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    It's not just the serving as a pastor that is forbidden in Scripture but the teaching of men in a spiritual context.
     
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    Wow. I hardly know where to begin.

    So you're of the opinion that men are less suceptible to Satan's deception? A fascinating perspective, I must say.
     
  8. mioque

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    "Adam on the other hand was not deceived."
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    Adam was a lot more gullible than Eve, being deceived by a being with incredible supernatural powers is one thing, being deceived by a younger woman is simply embarassing.
     
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    I have preached behind, around, and in front of the pulpit. (I don't stay still cause I get excited when I preach about the Lord) ;)
    BTW, I won't pastor a church, but I'll preach.

    Now if I am in a place where I am under the Jewish ordinance of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 or 1 Timothy 2:11-12... then I will (out of respect) behave accordingly. But if I'm hanging around Gentiles...watch out! [​IMG] BTW, The Scribes and Pharisees had written the Jewish Talmud, which denied women the privilege to speak. [​IMG]
    But don't take my word for it, look the Jewish Talmud up and check it out.

    Music4Him
     
  10. tragic_pizza

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    You're welcome to come hang out with this Gentile any old time.
     
  11. PastorGreg

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    Wow. I hardly know where to begin.

    So you're of the opinion that men are less suceptible to Satan's deception? A fascinating perspective, I must say.
    </font>[/QUOTE]It's not an opinion. It's what the Bible says. Your argument is with the Holy Spirit.
     
  12. PastorGreg

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    Just as the previous poster, you contradict the Holy Spirit. I think I'll choose to believe Him.
     
  13. El_Guero

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    atestring

    When you say, "How does this match up the idea of Conservatives" do you mean that women should:

    1) Not speak in church at all;
    2) That women should not preach at all;
    3) That women proclaim the Gospel (preach), but they should not be in the office of Pastor/Preacher; or
    4) That women should be Pastor/Preachers?
     
  14. Ben W

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    Did the early church even have pulpits?
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  16. Marcia

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    I think the Bible makes it clear that the shepherds and elders should be men.
     
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    PastorGreg
    You really have to learn the difference between a person exposing a flawed argument and a person disagreeing with you. :rolleyes:
     
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    Marcia, what scriptures are you basing your opinion on? Is it from scriptures like this?
     
  19. atestring

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    What If I said this is a "strawman" argument?
    You have not bible Reference in this post to back up your statement.
     
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    Personally, I enjoy the piece and quiet of Wednesday nights, Sunday mornings and Sunday nights. I live in a house full of women. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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