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News: Church in Nashville might get expelled from its association

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Speedpass, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. Speedpass

    Speedpass Active Member
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    This congregation, Glendale Baptist, called a lesbian to be it's associate pastor for children. Someone at this church said that she was the "best candidate".

    [ May 22, 2003, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Squire Robertsson ]
     
  2. Haruo

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    What association are they in? Assuming that (a) they're not Alliance and (b) her lesbianism was known when she was called, then I'd say they're probably banking on being expelled. But maybe not. It's either a gutsy move or a foolish one, maybe both.
     
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    The Nashville Baptist Association. Many Southern Baptist churches belong to a local/regional association in addition to the SBC and their state convention.
     
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    Is she a practicing Lesbian or cellibate?
     
  5. I Am Blessed 24

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    Does that matter? :confused:

    I think a better question would be; "Is she a saved Christian or a lesbian?"

    If she has repented and gotten saved, she would no longer be a lesbian.

    If she is NOT saved; putting her in that position could prove very harmful to the children.

    Blessings,
    Sue
     
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    where is female homosexuality condemned in the bible?
     
  7. I Am Blessed 24

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    I don't think God is biased when it comes to sin!

    Homosexuality is homosexuality..gender doesn't even enter into the equation.

    If God condoned homosexual activity among women; why would he condemn it so strongly among men??? :confused:

    In the Bible, the word 'man' or 'mankind' is often used to refer to both sexes.

    Blessings,
    Sue
     
  8. InHim2002

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    taking a literal reading of the bible and not adding my own interpretation I find condemnation of male homosexuality - very explict condemnation in fact - but I see no mention of women at all - why would that be if God is against it?
     
  9. I Am Blessed 24

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    As I said in my earlier post; in the Bible, the word 'man' is often used to mean both sexes. If you don't believe me, look it up in the Greek.

    Are you pro-homosexual?
     
  10. LadyEagle

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    Romans 1:[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    [27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
     
  11. InHim2002

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    okay - Leviticus 18:22 states:

    "Thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination"

    This is clearly refering to male homosexuality - mankind in this context can only men - otherwise it doesn't make any sense.

    Romans 1:26 - 27 states

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    1:26 For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions.
    For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature.
    1:27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error. "

    Once again - this verse only makes sense if the word men means men (given that women are mentioned in the previous verse)

    It also does not state what it is exactly that women have done that is against nature - given that male homosexual acts are explictly mentioned I would have thought female ones would be too - I think that this verse is most likely referring to sodomy rather than female homosexual activity.

    So I don't see any obvious condemnation of female homosexuality - perhaps I am missing something though - could you point me to a verse?
     
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    For those of you who believe that homosexuality is a sin and that one cannot continue to believe a sin to be OK and still be a Christian:

    What about all those good, Christian, slaveholding Southern Baptists? Owning another person is sinful and wrong; and denying that they are human beings is wrong. Yet so many Christians believed that it wasn't sinful that they founded a denomination which now claims 16 million members.

    What about all those good Christians who kept black people out of their churches? That was sinful. Were they Christians?

    What about all the disagreement on this board about the sinfullness of drinking, wearing pants, using other translations, going to movies, etc.? Are only those who get the exact combination of "do's" and "don'ts" Christians?

    What about all of the disobedient "Christians" who live in blatant disregard of the command from Jesus' own lips to give everything we have to the poor?

    We do, in fact, see through a glass darkly. None of us gets it exactly right; and the Bible is not always a cut-and-dry guide to morality (Thous shalt not kill? What about the war in Iraq?). The fact that we might not interpret it correctly does not make us less Christian.

    Joshua
     
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    For those who wish to rehash (defend) for the umpteenth time, whether or not homosexuality is an abomination to God, please take the topic to one of the "debate forums." This forum is for news and fellowship, not debate, per the new BB format. Thanks.

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    I am not debating it - I am genuinely curious - is there a verse that explicitly condemns female homosexuality?
     
  15. I Am Blessed 24

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    SheEagle gave you a verse five posts back.

    Romans 1:26 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature"

    If you can't understand that verse or you want to twist it around; then we are, indeed, debating and this thread needs to be moved to a 'debating' forum as the moderator suggested.

    As Will Rogers once said, "It doesn't take a genius to pick out a goat in a herd of sheep."

    :D
    Sue
     
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    Joshua,

    On the chance that I have missed it. Where in the Bible does it say that slavery is a sin?

    I'm not supporting slavery I'm just asking you if slavery is condemned in the Bible like Homosexuality is.
     
  17. Willow 2

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    This is my thought's on homosexuality..It
    has to be wrong for the simple fact of the
    good lord made Adam & Eve..What were they?

    They were Male & Female. So what does that
    state? This was his help MATE...Right..

    So what does mate mean??

    And also when the lord destroyed the earth
    with water...What did he tell noah's Family
    to do...Go out and maltaply & tell me how's
    two women or two men going to do that?

    And what was sodam & gamorra destroyed for...
    homosexuality!!

    No it's not right...Cause the good lord didnot
    Make a Male & Female for the same Sex to be
    together...He made a Male & Female for a reason
    to reperduce...& can two women or two men do that
    No way can they...it all come's down to Male &
    Female.

    WILLOW 2
     
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    I would hate to think I belonged to a church where the best candidate for the position of associate pastor for the youth was a lesbian.

    what does that say for the rest of the congregation??

    Its sad what some are teaching our youth today! [​IMG]

    I think action needs to be taken against them.
     
  19. ColoradoFB

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    Willow 2,

    Just a point of correction . . .
    Genesis talks about Eve being "an help meet" for Adam, not a help MATE. Meet is a word that in that context when the KJV was drafted, means "suitable". God had tried to find a help for Adam from among the animals, but none were, so Eve was a help meet, or a help, suitable for Adam.
     
  20. C.S. Murphy

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    What is news? It is not news that Joshua and some others feel that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle to God. It is not news that homosexuality is infact an abomination to God. It is not news that many homos will bust hell wide open and realize that what the liberal bible twisters taught them was false. It is not even news that slaveholders treated their slaves in sinful ways (as much as Joshua loves to think it is news)But it is news that this lesbian is an associate pastor and actually that is the topic of the thread. To all the pro homos here as much as I would enjoy fighting with you this thread is not the place and to all others don't let these few misguided individuals anger you into an ugly post.So if anyone has a post pertaining to this lesbian and the poor excuse for a church that would call her to be a minister then post on if not don't.

    Murph
     
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