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It's folks who shout "Amen!" every time the pastor makes an point. It has more to do with culture than anything else.
I've been known to be a little vocal in church when I agreed very strongly with the preacher (but not disruptive), but most of the time I don't because it can have a tendency to take the attention away from the message of the preacher and put it on the people who allegedly agree with the pastor.
On the other hand, I've preached in places where it is the custom to give verbal support to the preacher (a predominently black church comes to mind), and I was encouraged tremendously by the "Amens" and calls to "Tell it!". Of course when I stammered over my words at one point, a dear lady shouted, "Oh, please help him Jesus!" which almost completely choked me with laughter.
Some churches have a group of folks that like to "Amen" the pastor (usually at inappropriate times) a thousand times during a sermon. It was culturally popular in the South and among the rural congregations (of all ethnic variety).
Some ego-centric ifb preachers I know have their own cheering section, "Amening" everything they say. Guess it makes them feel impo-tent.
Never could understand that mentality. Do any of our non-US Baptists know of that same phenomenon in your area?
Some ego-centric ifb preachers I know have their own cheering section, "Amening" everything they say. Guess it makes them feel impo-tent.
Never could understand that mentality. Do any of our non-US Baptists know of that same phenomenon in your area?
bar_elohim
New Member
Hi Kate.
Amen is a term meaning, 'so be it'. It is a term of agreement to what is being or has been said.
Usually what takes place Kate, is that someone who is preaching or teaching Gods word, and it is something that the Holy spirit has inspired to be delivered goes forth. And those hearing this anointed word, have been studying or reading the word, and the spirit has been revealing its meaning to them. And there is an agreement between the speaker and the hearer because it is a revelation by the same spirit. And usually there is an 'amen' from the hearer. There is a two fold blessing, one to the hearer and the other to the preacher or teacher. It is like a confirmation to them both, that they are both hearing from the same spirit. This is why the word says let all things be confirmed, by two or three witnesses. Understand?
This is why 1 John 2:27 is so important in the life of the believer. It is like I said to some of the elders. The ministry is not a Moses or Joshua type ministry, where these men of god would go into the presence of god and get a word from god, and then go out and tell the people. Today believers have the right and privilege to enter into the presence of the King of Kings, and hear for themselves what He has to say. They don't need a doctorate, or diplomana to do so.
Hope this helps.
In Him.
Amen is a term meaning, 'so be it'. It is a term of agreement to what is being or has been said.
Usually what takes place Kate, is that someone who is preaching or teaching Gods word, and it is something that the Holy spirit has inspired to be delivered goes forth. And those hearing this anointed word, have been studying or reading the word, and the spirit has been revealing its meaning to them. And there is an agreement between the speaker and the hearer because it is a revelation by the same spirit. And usually there is an 'amen' from the hearer. There is a two fold blessing, one to the hearer and the other to the preacher or teacher. It is like a confirmation to them both, that they are both hearing from the same spirit. This is why the word says let all things be confirmed, by two or three witnesses. Understand?
This is why 1 John 2:27 is so important in the life of the believer. It is like I said to some of the elders. The ministry is not a Moses or Joshua type ministry, where these men of god would go into the presence of god and get a word from god, and then go out and tell the people. Today believers have the right and privilege to enter into the presence of the King of Kings, and hear for themselves what He has to say. They don't need a doctorate, or diplomana to do so.
Hope this helps.
In Him.
An "amen corner" is a typically a group of people who say, "AMEN!", whenever the preacher says something meaningful or something that they feel bears their verbal support.
Sometimes it can be several people sitting together or, more often in baptist churches, just various people here and there.
Nonetheless, supporting the pastor's messages with affirming voices should be done so as the Spirit leads and not "chorus" style. But that's just my opinion.
I am not an "amen" person, myself. I am more of a "that's right!" person! HA!
Peace-
YSIC
Scarlett O.
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Sometimes it can be several people sitting together or, more often in baptist churches, just various people here and there.
Nonetheless, supporting the pastor's messages with affirming voices should be done so as the Spirit leads and not "chorus" style. But that's just my opinion.
I am not an "amen" person, myself. I am more of a "that's right!" person! HA!
Peace-
YSIC
Scarlett O.
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ok, I thiught it was a group of people amening evything and they all sat together(like in the cornor, and thats why it is called an amen corner). Ok, silly me.
So this is mostly a southern thing? I'd like to know about other places in the US that aren't in the south as well as those outside the US.
I knwo we have a few amens occasionally, and usually from the same 6 or 10 people, but not all the time, like 50 times in one seromn, and you can barely hear them, and the pastor rarely hears them.
So what are your thoughts on someone not wanting to go to a church without this suposed amen cornor? And if a church has some amens, isn't that b aout the samething? Or are they wanting a lot of loud amens?
I have to say it preplexes me that someone doesn't want to go to a church who doesn't have soemthing that isn't biblical anyway.(not that I'm saying there is something worng with it, but to demand a church have it or not going there is something else to me.)
So this is mostly a southern thing? I'd like to know about other places in the US that aren't in the south as well as those outside the US.
I knwo we have a few amens occasionally, and usually from the same 6 or 10 people, but not all the time, like 50 times in one seromn, and you can barely hear them, and the pastor rarely hears them.
So what are your thoughts on someone not wanting to go to a church without this suposed amen cornor? And if a church has some amens, isn't that b aout the samething? Or are they wanting a lot of loud amens?
I have to say it preplexes me that someone doesn't want to go to a church who doesn't have soemthing that isn't biblical anyway.(not that I'm saying there is something worng with it, but to demand a church have it or not going there is something else to me.)
We were at a funeral last Sunday, and there were a couple of people around us who kept saying amen, one was a precher from a little church way out somewhere. And I'll tell you what, the precher preching the funeral spoke for about 30 minutes of dribble, all mixed up, hopped and skipped all over the place(I mean verbally, about the bible), and said it was all coming straight from God(his excuse for not having to read the bible, and for putting down prechers who study for a sermon), I'd never hear so much false teachings all in one place in person ever. And still these people just kept saying amen, they were in agreement to false teachings. We agreed if we hadn't been at a funeral we'd have left. Nothing he said was anointed.
bar_elohim
New Member
Well Kate if you've read Pauls account of what went on in the assembly of the saints you would find a lot of things that don't go on in many assemblies today. 1 Corinthians 14:1-40.
The word hasn't changed, the spirit hasn't changed, but something has, and many are the less for it.
In Him.
The word hasn't changed, the spirit hasn't changed, but something has, and many are the less for it.
In Him.
bar_elohim
New Member
Kate; we know by the word, that there are many who call themselves christian, but who truly aren't. We also know that there are those that counterfeit the things of God. And all this falseness, and counterfeiting, and lying, is for a purpose. That we might learn to discern the true from the false. Remember the tares and the wheat. They look the same until they start to bear their fruit. And by their fruit you will know them.
John 15 says there are branches in the Vine that don't bear fruit, and they are going to be cut off and thrown in the fire. Imagine that? Branches that have been grafted into the TRUE VINE Jesus Christ, and nothing of Him is growing in them.... Isn't that the saddest thought.
In Him
John 15 says there are branches in the Vine that don't bear fruit, and they are going to be cut off and thrown in the fire. Imagine that? Branches that have been grafted into the TRUE VINE Jesus Christ, and nothing of Him is growing in them.... Isn't that the saddest thought.
In Him
*gasp*
Churches that don't amen really do exist?
How can you stand it? I went to one where the women weren't allowed to talk, so only the men amened.
It was the only one like that, and it's wonderful to not have to contain yourself when the truth of God hits your heart! Ears. You know what I mean.
Gina
Churches that don't amen really do exist?
How can you stand it? I went to one where the women weren't allowed to talk, so only the men amened.
It was the only one like that, and it's wonderful to not have to contain yourself when the truth of God hits your heart! Ears. You know what I mean.
Gina
Doc Yankum
New Member
Katie posted:
[A friend who I ahve been trying to get to go back to church for 3 years now told me she didn't want to go to a church that didn't have an amen cornor. Now what is that? And does it have a biblical bases?
I guess I'm just not old enough.]
Katie, age has nothing to do with it. In my church even the young children know what and where the amen corner is. It is a matter of tradition. If your church doesn't have one and you have been attending there all your life, then you wouldn't know.
Maybe I can shed some lightfor you. A member can say amen from anywhere in the church house when he feels the pastor has uttered a statement of deep truth. However, that does not constitute an amen corner. In most rural churches (and I suppose mostly in the south) there are up to four pews in a corner adjacent to the pulpit.
It is here that some of the deacons and other of the male pillars of the church sit and utter their approval to the sermon delivered by the pastor. I have also heard that some churches have awomen corners that the sisters of the church sit.
I do not believe there is a bibical basis for this amen corner. It seems to be more of a regional tradition. I also don't believe there is anything wrong with this practice as long as those who are amening do not fall into a rhythm and begin to give vocal support to statements of no consequence.
We once had a deacon in our church that would amen every fourth sentence. He ended up vocalizing to some pretty dumb things.
[A friend who I ahve been trying to get to go back to church for 3 years now told me she didn't want to go to a church that didn't have an amen cornor. Now what is that? And does it have a biblical bases?
I guess I'm just not old enough.]
Katie, age has nothing to do with it. In my church even the young children know what and where the amen corner is. It is a matter of tradition. If your church doesn't have one and you have been attending there all your life, then you wouldn't know.
Maybe I can shed some lightfor you. A member can say amen from anywhere in the church house when he feels the pastor has uttered a statement of deep truth. However, that does not constitute an amen corner. In most rural churches (and I suppose mostly in the south) there are up to four pews in a corner adjacent to the pulpit.
It is here that some of the deacons and other of the male pillars of the church sit and utter their approval to the sermon delivered by the pastor. I have also heard that some churches have awomen corners that the sisters of the church sit.
I do not believe there is a bibical basis for this amen corner. It seems to be more of a regional tradition. I also don't believe there is anything wrong with this practice as long as those who are amening do not fall into a rhythm and begin to give vocal support to statements of no consequence.
We once had a deacon in our church that would amen every fourth sentence. He ended up vocalizing to some pretty dumb things.
We live in the bootheel of Missouri, and Amens are said at most all the churches I have been too. It takes nothing away from the service. But then I have never heard anyone say it every other sentence either. Men as well as women say it. Some even will say softly "Thats right". I have never heard anyone just bellow out the words, but they do say things in a more respective way. It seems I have the Amen head. I do alot of nodding. A preacher friend told me one time, when he would look for that amen, he could just look over at me and I would be giving him the nod. I laughed, but thats when I noticed I was doing it. I still do, and cannot stop from doing it.
What I woulds like to do is sit in the very back pew, and do just like on the "Ghost and Mr. Chicken" Movie, and yell, "Atta Boy Preacher!" (Well that guy said Luther. tee-hee!) But that would be a little devilish so I will now bow out gracefully.
Sherrie
What I woulds like to do is sit in the very back pew, and do just like on the "Ghost and Mr. Chicken" Movie, and yell, "Atta Boy Preacher!" (Well that guy said Luther. tee-hee!) But that would be a little devilish so I will now bow out gracefully.
Sherrie
I really can't see chooseing to go to or not go to a church based on them having or not having that isn't even biblical.
And I'm glad we not have that actual cornor like Doc Yankum explained it. Sounds more like an ego booster for the pastor where people sit who are required to say amen to sit there in the 'prime' seats, rather then someone just occasionally saying amen, no requirement.
And I'm glad we not have that actual cornor like Doc Yankum explained it. Sounds more like an ego booster for the pastor where people sit who are required to say amen to sit there in the 'prime' seats, rather then someone just occasionally saying amen, no requirement.
Doc Yankum
New Member
Katie, you are correct. Whether a church has an amen corner or not is a poor basis for choosing a church.
Perhaps I did not make my previous post clear. No one is required to sit in the "prime" seats. Truly, I think all the pews in the Lord's house are "prime". And no one is required to say amen. If the Holy Spirit connects with the spirit that is within us when we are being spiritually fed, then we will speak and say "amen" or "that's right". Actually I say both. But there are as many amens coming from the rest of the pews as there are from the amen corner.
This is certainly not meant to be an ego booster for the pastor, nor does he want it to be. Rather it is an endorsment for the gospel message which God has given him.
God bless and when you see my son's mother in law tell her Pa said hello
Perhaps I did not make my previous post clear. No one is required to sit in the "prime" seats. Truly, I think all the pews in the Lord's house are "prime". And no one is required to say amen. If the Holy Spirit connects with the spirit that is within us when we are being spiritually fed, then we will speak and say "amen" or "that's right". Actually I say both. But there are as many amens coming from the rest of the pews as there are from the amen corner.
This is certainly not meant to be an ego booster for the pastor, nor does he want it to be. Rather it is an endorsment for the gospel message which God has given him.
God bless and when you see my son's mother in law tell her Pa said hello
SaggyWoman
Active Member
lol.
I have heard "break it down".
I have heard "That's right".
And of course, "amen".
I say, "you got that right."
We don't have a lot of "amens" atI this church I attend now, but we do talk to the preacher a little during the sermon.
I find it interesting in black churches where the preacher ends up "singing" his sermon.
I have heard "break it down".
I have heard "That's right".
And of course, "amen".
I say, "you got that right."
We don't have a lot of "amens" atI this church I attend now, but we do talk to the preacher a little during the sermon.
I find it interesting in black churches where the preacher ends up "singing" his sermon.
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
ITA. We don't have an 'amen corner' per se. Both men and women have been heard to say, "Amen", "That's right", "Preach it, brother", and "C'mon now".
It is not disruptive to the service and certainly not to the Pastor who says, "It's like saying sic 'em to a dog".
When you go to church, you are supposed to get you 'cup filled'. If you don't...turn your cup over!
Sue