What does drinking do for you?

Did you not just answer your own question?

 

That's just it. Some people think there's nothing wrong with taking a drink now and then, just as there are people who don't believe smoking is wrong. Do they do it in front of others, who may think it is wrong? Sure, some do. Others don't, out of respect. But, don't say you're against something just because there are others around who are against it, then go and do it later.

"Next question, if drinking can make a brother or sister stumble, why do it. I don't think God would allow this sin if it would cause another to sin."

This was your original question. Why do you thing God would not allow this sin?

 

Two words, free will. Also, Romans 5:12. God's plan is for you to look to Jesus when tempted with sin. But, sad to say, people will sin until the day of judgement. </font>[/QUOTE]

??? What happened to free will? You're contradicting yourself here.

 

So when you are dying and lack any thing to ease the pain, you can drink it.

I love it when this verse is used to support drinking. Classic.

 

Is drinking what a drug? You mean alcohol? Oh, is alcohol a drug?

ABUSE!! Don't you get it? You can abuse anything and it be wrong.
If people use "drugs" in a purposeful attempt to alter their state of being for their personal pleasure (legal prescription medicine excluded here), i.e. to get high, or drunk, or whatever, then it is wrong.
Drinking a cold beer with a bowl of chili, IMO, isn't gonna do much harm, now, is it?

Where are you going with this?

[ April 25, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: wizofoz ]

 

Is drinking what a drug? You mean alcohol?

ABUSE!! Don't you get it? You can abuse anything and it be wrong.
If people use "drugs" in a purposeful attempt to alter their state of being (legal prescription medicine excluded here), i.e. to get high, or drunk, or whatever, then it is wrong.
Drinking a cold beer with a bowl of chili, IMO, isn't gonna do much harm, now, is it?

Where are you going with this? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry, yes, I did mean alcohol.

So it is okay to smoke one joint or shoot up one time? Just because you don't feel the effects of one beer, does not mean that it did not harm you. If I'm not mistaken, I believe it kills brain cells. </font>[/QUOTE]Do you not read before you reply?
"If people use "drugs" in a purposeful attempt to alter their state of being for their personal pleasure (legal prescription medicine excluded here), i.e. to get high, or drunk, or whatever, then it is wrong."

What's the problem with understanding that?

[ April 25, 2003, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: wizofoz ]

 

I have a friend who beleives that it is a sin to eat pork. He has scripture to support his view. so when i am with him i eat beef ribs instead of pork. It would offend him if i ate pork so i don't. This does not make me a fake for not casting a stumbling block before whom meat offends. I also have vegetarian friends i don't go out to eat with them

Brotherly love constrains me not to offend. I have control over my vessel so I can turn down meat or drink.

For the non drinkers have you given up pork along with wine? Or do you eat it in moderation so as not to clog your arteries?

 

So am I. I'm done posting to this topic too...there is a such thing as over kill.

God bless you all, and have a nice weekend.

In Christ,
Laurenda

 

I'm with you guys. Let's blow this popsicle stand.

 

I'm tired of talking about this topic.

I'll drink to that!!!

 

There are probably reasonably accurate estimates available, but no estimates are needed to know that they [automobile deaths] are all automobile-related.

 

So when you are dying and lack any thing to ease the pain, you can drink it.

I love it when this verse is used to support drinking. Classic. </font>[/QUOTE]The writer of Proverbs may well have considered his own work a "classic," too. Hopefully you can tell him that in the future. And if he's really as smart as he seems, he will know whether you are being sarcastic.

 

ever wonder why the bottom end of the blood/alcohol level starts at .02...and not at .00...
Well...I'll tell you why...

God created this wonderful vessel for our souls...to ride around in...till we go home to Jesus...or the other way...depending...the human body is beautiful...intricate...magnificant!!!...the creation of man...was God centerpiece...

our bodies each produce the exact amount of alcohol we need...for this earthly vessel to properly operate...usually maintaining a B/A level of about .02...some slightly higher...some slightly lower...it does not need to be augmented...added to...

The use in the Bible spoken of medicinally...was not used in excess...and only in extreme cases...extreme pain...extreme grief... wine...in those days...was weaker...and watered down...

Remember what happened to Noah?...after the flood...

and to Lot...after Sodom?...

we are indwelt...by the Holy Spirit...our bodies...a temple...to be offered as a living sacrifice...

you may want yours full of durgs(alcohol is btw...a drug)...but I don't...

 

What happened to Noah after the flood?....Hmmm, he repopulated the earth?

What happened to Lot after Sodom? Hmmm, he became a widower?

I'm not sure what you're getting at...would you mind not being so ambiguous...and by the way...what are "DURGS" ?

 

Wisdom Seeker, with all due respect you know as well as I what he/she is getting at.
Noah got drunk by drinking wine and his sons saw his nakedness.
Lots daughters got him drunk and then continued to commit incest with him.

I don’t think the post was ambiguous at all, if you know your Bible.

Noah
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Lot
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.


Durgs is street slang for drugs, kind of like, the low down means, what’s going on?

[ April 26, 2003, 04:58 AM: Message edited by: Matthew 16:24 ]