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Free Will - A Slave

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    FREE-WILL - A SLAVE

    A SERMON DELIVERED ON SABBATH MORNING, DECEMBER 2, 1855,BY THE REV. C. H. SPURGEON,

    AT NEW PARK STREET CHAPEL, SOUTHWARK.

    "And ye will not come unto me, that ye might have life." -John 5:40.

    THIS is one of the great guns of the Arminians, mounted upon the top of their walls, and often discharged with terrible noise against the poor Christians called Calvinists. I intend to spike the gun this morning, or, rather, to turn it on the enemy, for it was never theirs; it was never cast at their foundry at all, but was intended to teach the very opposite doctrine to that which they assert. Usually, when the text is taken, the divisions are:-First, that man has a will. Secondly, that he is entirely free. Thirdly, that men must make the selves willing to come to Christ, otherwise they will not be saved. Now, e shall have no such divisions; but we will endeavour to take a more calm look at the text, and not, because there happen to be the words; will," or " ill not" in it, run away with the conclusion that it teaches the doctrine o free-will. It has already been proved beyond all controversy that free- ill is nonsense. Freedom cannot belong to will any more than penetrability can belong to electricity. They are altogether different things. Free agency we may believe in, but free-will is simply ridiculous. The will is well known by all to be directed by the understanding, to be moved by motives, to be guided by other parts of the soul, and to be a secondary thing. Philosophy and religion both discard at once the very thought of free-will; and I will go as far as Martin Luther, in that strong assertion of his, where he says, "If any man doth ascribe aught of salvation, even the very least, to the free-will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright." It may seem a harsh sentiment, but he who in his soul believes that man does of his own free-will turn to God, cannot have been taught of God, for that is one of the first principles taught us when God begins with us, that we have neither will nor power, but that he gives both; that he is "Alpha and Omega "in the salvation of men.

    Our four points, this morning, shall be,-First, that every man is dead, because it says, "Ye will not come unto me that ye might have life." Secondly, that there is life in Jesus Christ-"Ye will not come unto me that ye might have life." Thirdly, that there is life in Christ Jesus for every one that comes for it-"Ye will not come unto me that ye might have life;" implying that all who go will have life; and fourthly, the gist of the text lies here, that no man by nature ever will come to Christ, for the text says, "Ye will not come unto me that ye might have life." So far from asserting that men of their own wills ever do such a thing, it boldly and flatly denies it, and says, "Ye WILL NOT come unto me that ye might have life." Why, beloved, I am almost ready to exclaim, Have all free-willers no knowledge that they dare to run in the teeth of inspiration? Have all those that deny the doctrine of grace no sense? Have they so departed from God that they wrest this to prove free-will; whereas the text says, "Ye WILL NOT come unto me that ye might have life."


    I. First, then, our text implies THAT MEN BY NATURE ARE DEAD.
    NO being needs to go after life if he has life in himself. The text speaks very strongly when it says, "Ye will not come unto me, that ye might have life," though it saith it not in words, yet it doth in effect affirm that men need a life more than they have themselves. My hearers, we are all dead unless we have been begotten unto a lively hope. First, we are all of us, by nature, legally dead:-"In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt die the death," said God to Adam; and though Adam did not die in that moment naturally, he died legally; that is to say death was recorded against him. As soon as, at the Old Bailey, the judge puts on the black cap and pronounces the sentence, the man is reckoned to be dead at law. Though perhaps a month may intervene before he is brought on the scaffold to endure the sentence of the law, yet the law looks upon him as a dead man. It is impossible for him to transact anything. He cannot inherit, he cannot bequeath; he is nothing-he is a dead man. The country considers him not as being alive in it at all. There is an election-he is not asked for his vote because he is considered as dead. He is shut up in his condemned cell, and he is dead. Ah! and ye ungodly sinners who have never had life in Christ, ye are alive this morning, by reprieve, but do ye know that ye are legally dead; that God considers you as such, that in the day when your father Adam touched the fruit, and when you yourselves did sin, God, the Eternal Judge, put on the black cap and condemned you? You talk mightily of your own standing, and goodness, and morality:-where is it? Scripture saith, ye are "condemned already." Ye are not to wait to be condemned at the judgment-day-that will be the execution of the sentence:- "ye are condemned already." In the moment ye sinned; your names were all written in the black book of justice; every one was then sentenced by God to death, unless he found a substitute, in the person of Christ, for his sins. What would you think if you were to go into the Old Bailey, and see the condemned culprit sitting in his cell, laughing and merry? You would say, "The man is a fool, for he is condemned, and is to be executed, yet how
    merry he is." Ah! and how foolish is the worldly man, who, while sentence is recorded against him, lives in merriment and mirth! Do you think the sentence of God is of no effect? Thinkest thou that thy sin which is written with an iron pen on the rocks for ever hath no horrors in it? God hath said thou art condemned already. If thou wouldst but feel this, it would mingle bitters in thy sweet cups of joy; thy dances would be stopped, thy laughter quenched in sighing, if thou wouldst recollect that thou art condemned already. We ought all to weep, if we lay this to our souls: that by nature we have no life in God's sight; we are actually positively condemned, death is
    recorded against us, and we are considered in ourselves now, in God's sight, as much dead as if we were actually cast into hell; we are condemned here by sin, we do not yet suffer the penalty of it, but it is written against us, and we are legally dead, nor can we find life unless we find legal life in the person of Christ, of which more by-and-bye.

    But, besides being legally dead, we are also spiritually dead. For not only did the sentence pass in the book but it passed in the heart; it entered the conscience; it operated on the soul, on the Judgment, on the imagination, and on everything. "In the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die," was not only fulfilled by the sentence recorded, but by something which took place in Adam. Just as, in a certain moment, when this body shall die, the blood stops, the pulse ceases, the breath no longer comes from the lungs, so in the day that Adam did eat that fruit his soul died; his
    imagination lost its mighty power to climb into celestial things and see heaven his will lost its power always to choose that which is good, his judgment lost all ability to judge between right and wrong decidedly and infallibly, though something was retained in conscience, his memory became tainted, liable to hold evil things, and let righteous things glide away; every power of him ceased as to its moral vitality. Goodness was the vitality of his powers-that departed. Virtue, holiness, integrity, these were the life of man; but when these departed man became dead; and now, every man, so far as spiritual things are concerned, is "dead in trespasses and sins," spiritually. Nor is the soul less dead in a carnal man, than the body is when committed to the grave, it is actually and positively dead-not by a metaphor, for Paul speaketh not in metaphor when he affirms, "You hath he quickened who were dead in trespasses and sins." But my hearers, again, I would I could preach to your hearts concerning this subject. It was bad enough when I described death as having been recorded; but now I speak of it as having actually taken place in your hearts. Ye are not what ye once were; ye are not what ye were in Adam, not what ye were created.
    Man was made pure and holy. Ye are not the perfect creatures of which some boast; ye are altogether fallen, ye have gone out of the way, ye have become corrupt and filthy. Oh! listen not to the siren song of those who tell you of your moral dignity, and your mighty elevation in matters of salvation. You are not perfect; that great word, "ruin," is written on your heart; and death is stamped upon your spirit. Do not conceive. O moral man that thou wilt be able to stand before God in thy morality, for thou art nothing but a carcase embalmed in legality, a corpse arrayed in some fine robes, but still corrupt in God's sight. And think not, O thou possessor of natural religion! that thou mayest by thine own might and power make thyself acceptable to God. Why, man! thou art dead! and thou mayest array the dead as gloriously as thou pleasest, but still it would be a solemn mockery. There lieth queen Cleopatra-put the crown upon her head, deck her in royal robes, let her sit in state; but what a cold chill runs through you when you pass by her. She is fair now, even in her death-but how horrible it is to stand by the side even of a dead queen, celebrated for her majestic beauty! So you may be glorious in your beauty, hair, and amiable, and lovely, you put the crown of honesty upon your head, and wear about you all the garments of uprightness, but unless God has quickened thee, O man! unless the Spirit has had dealings with thy soul, thou art in God's sight as obnoxious as the chilly corpse is to thyself: Thou wouldst not choose to live with a corpse sitting at thy table; nor doth God love that thou should'st be in his sight. He is angry with thee every day, for thou art in sin -thou art in death. Oh! believe this, take it to thy soul, appropriate it, for it is most true that thou art dead, spiritually as well as legally.

    The third kind of death is the consummation of the other two. It is eternal death. It is the execution of the legal sentence; it is the consummation of the spiritual death. Eternal death is the death of the soul, it takes place after the body has been laid in the grave, after the soul has departed from it. If legal death be terrible, it is because of its consequences; and if spiritual death be dreadful, it is because of that which shall succeed it. The two deaths of which we have spoken are the roots, and that death which is to come is the flower thereof. Oh! had I words that I might this morning attempt to depict to you what eternal death is. The soul has come before its Maker, the book has been opened, the sentence has been uttered; "Depart ye cursed" has shaken the universe, and made the very spheres dim with the frown of the Creator; the soul has departed to the depths where it is to dwell with others in eternal death. Oh! how horrible is its position now. Its bed is a bed of flame, the sights it sees are murdering ones that affright its spirit, the sounds it hears are shrieks, and wails, and moans, and groans; all that its body knows is the infliction of miserable pain! it has the possessor
    of unutterable woe, of unmitigated misery. The soul looks up. Hope is extinct-it is gone. It looks downward in dread and fear; remorse hath possessed its soul. It looks on the right hand-and the adamantine walls of fate keep it within its limits of torture. It looks on the left-and there the rampart of blazing fire forbids the sealing ladder of e'en a dreamy speculation of escape. It looks within and seeks for consolation there, but a gnawing worm hath entered into the soul. It looks about it-it has no friends to aid no comforters, but tormentors in abundance. It knoweth nought of hope or deliverance; it hath heard the everlasting key of destiny turning in its awful wards, and it hath seen God take that key and hurl it down into the depth of eternity never to be formed again. It hopeth not; it knoweth no escape; it guesseth not of deliverance; it pants for death, but death is too much its foe to be there, it longs that non-existence would swallow it up, but this eternal death is worse than annihilation. It pants for extermination as the labourer for his Sabbath; it longs that it might be swallowed up in nothingness just as would the galley slave long for freedom, but it cometh not -it is eternally dead. When eternity shall have rolled round multitudes of its everlasting cycles it shall still be dead. For-ever knoweth no end; eternity cannot be spelled except in eternity. Still the soul seethe written o'er its head, "Thou art damned for ever." It hearth howling that are to be perpetual; it seethe flames which are unquenchable; it knoweth pains that are unmitigated; it hears a sentence that rolls not like the thunder of earth which soon is hushed-but onward, onward, onward, shaking the echoes of eternity-making thousands of years shake again with the horrid thunder of its dreadful sound-"Depart! depart! depart ye cursed!" This is the eternal death.

    II. Secondly, IN CHRIST JESUS THERE IS LIFE, for he says, "ye will not come unto me that ye may have life." There is no life in God the Father for a sinner; there is no life in God the Spirit for a sinner apart from Jesus. The life of a sinner is in Christ. If you take the Father apart, though he loves his elect, and decrees that they shall live, yet life is only in his Son. If you take God the Spirit apart from Jesus Christ, though it is the Spirit that gives us spiritual life, yet it is life in Christ, life in the Son. We dare not, and cannot apply in the first place, either to God the Father, or to God the Holy Ghost for spiritual life. The first thing we are led to do when God brings us out of Egypt is to eat the Passover-the very first thing. The first means whereby we get life is by feeding upon the flesh and blood of the Son of God; living in him, trusting on him, believing in his grace and power. Our second thought was-there is life in Christ. We will show you there are three kinds of life in Christ, as there are three kinds of death. First there is legal life in Christ. Just as every man by nature considered in Adam had a sentence of condemnation passed on him in the moment of Adam's sin, and more especially in the moment of his own first transgression, so I, if I be a believer, and you, if you trust in Christ, have had a legal sentence of acquittal passed on us through what Jesus Christ has done. O condemned sinner! thou mayest be sitting this morning condemned like the prisoner in Negate; but ere this day has passed away thou mayest be as clear from guilt as the angels above. There is such a thing as legal life in Christ, and, blessed be God! some of us enjoy it. We know our sins are pardoned because Christ suffered punishment for them. We know that we never can be punished ourselves, for Christ suffered in our stead. The Passover is slain for us; the lintel and door-post have been sprinkled, and the destroying angel can never touch us. For us there is no hell, although it blaze with terrible flame. Let Toped be prepared of old, let its pile be wood and much smoke, we never can come there-Christ died for us, in our stead. What if there be racks of horrid torture? what if there be a sentence producing most horrible reverberations of thundering sounds? yet neither rack, nor dungeon, nor thunder, are for us! In Christ Jesus we are now delivered. "There is, therefore, NOW no condemnation unto us who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."

    Sinner! art thou legally condemned this morning? Dost thou feel that? Then, let me tell thee that faith in Christ will give thee a knowledge of thy legal acquittal. Beloved, it is no fancy that we are condemned for our sins, it is a reality. So, it is no fancy we are acquitted, it is a reality. A man about to be hanged, if he received a full pardon would feel it a great reality. He would say, "I have a full pardon, I cannot be touched now." That is just how I feel.

    "Now freed from sin I walk at large
    The Saviour's blood's my full discharge;
    At his dear feet content I lay,
    A sinner saved, and homage pay."

    Brethren, we have gained legal life in Christ, and such legal life that we cannot lose it. The sentence has gone against us once-now it has gone out for us. It is written, THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION, and that now will do as well for me in fifty years as it does now. Whatever time we live it will still be written, "There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus." Then, secondly, there is spiritual life in Christ Jesus. As the man is spiritually dead, God has spiritual life for him, for there is not a want which is not supplied by Jesus, there is not an emptiness in the heart which Christ cannot fill; there is not a desolation which he cannot people, there is not a desert which he cannot make to blossom as the rose. O ye dead sinners! spiritually dead, there is life in Christ Jesus, for we have seen-yes! These eyes have seen-the dead live again; we have known the man whose soul was utterly corrupt, by the power of God seek after righteousness, we have known the man whose views were carnal whose lusts were mighty, whose passions were strong, suddenly, by irresistible might from heaven, consecrate himself to Christ, and become a child of Jesus. We know that there is life in Christ Jesus, of a spiritual order; yea, more, we ourselves, in our own persons, have felt that there is spiritual life. Well can we remember when we sat in the house of prayer, as dead as the very seat on which we sat. We had listened for a long, long while to the sound of the gospel, but no effect followed, when suddenly, as if our ears had been opened by the fingers of some mighty angel, a sound entered into our
    heart. We thought we heard Jesus saying, "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." An irresistible hand put itself on our heart and crushed a prayer out of it. We never had a prayer before like that. We cried, O God! Have mercy upon me a sinner." Some of us for mouths felt a hand pressing us as if we had been grasped in a vice, and our souls bled drops of anguish. That misery was a sign of coming life. Persons when they are being drowned do not feel the pain so much as while they are being restored. Oh! we recollect those pains, those groans, that living strife which our soul had when it came to Christ. Ah! we can recollect the giving of our spiritual life as easily as could a man his restoration from the grave. We can suppose Lazarus to have remembered his resurrection, though not all the circumstances of it. So we, although we have forgotten a great deal, do recollect our giving ourselves to Christ. We can say to every sinner however dead, there is life in Christ Jesus, though you may be rotten and corrupt in your grave. He who hath raises Lazarus hath raised us; and he can say, even to you, "Lazarus! come forth."


    In the third place, there is eternal life in Christ Jesus; and, oh! if eternal death be terrible, eternal life is blessed, for he has said, "Where I am there shall my people be." "Father, I will, that they also, whom thou hast given unto me, be with me where I am, that they may behold my glory." "I give unto my sheep eternal life, and they shall never perish." Now, any Armenian that would preach from that text must buy a pair of India rubber lips for I am sure he would need to stretch his mouth amazingly; he would never be able to speak the whole truth without winding about in a most mysterious manner. Eternal life-not a life which they are to lose, but eternal life. If I lost life in Adam I gained it in Christ; if I lost myself for ever I find myself for ever in Jesus Christ. Eternal life! Oh blessed thought! Our eyes will sparkle with joy and our souls burn with ecstasy in the thought that we have eternal life. Be quenched ye stars! let God put his finger on you-but my soul will live in bliss and joy. Put out thine eye O sun!-but mine eye shall "see the king in his beauty" when thine eye shall no more make the green earth laugh; and moon, be thou turned into blood!-but my blood shall ne'er be turned to nothingness; this spirit shall exist when thou hast ceased to be; and thou great world! thou mayest all subside, just as a moment's foam subsides upon the wave that bears it-but I shall have eternal life. O time! thou mayest see giant mountains dead and hidden in their graves; thou mayest see the stars like figs too ripe, falling from the tree; but thou shalt never, never see my spirit dead.

    III. This brings us to the third point: that ETERNAL LIFE IS GIVEN TO ALL WHO COME FOR IT. There never was a man who came to Christ for eternal life, for legal life, for spiritual life, who had not already received it, in some sense, and it was manifested to him that he had received it soon after he came. Let us take one or two texts:- "He is able to save to the uttermost them that come unto him." Every man who comes to Christ will find that Christ is able to save him-not able to save him a little to deliver him from a little sin, to keep him from a little trial, to carry him a little way and then drop him-but able to save him to the uttermost extent of his sin, unto the uttermost length of his trials, the uttermost depths of his sorrows unto the uttermost duration of his existence. Christ says to every one who comes to him, "Come, poor sinner, thou needs not ask whether I have power to save. I will not ask thee how far thou hast gone into sin. I am able to save thee to the uttermost." And there is no one on earth can go beyond God's "uttermost."

    Now another text: "Him that cometh to me, (mark the promises are nearly always to the coming ones) I will in no wise cast out." Every man that comes shall find the door of Christ's house opened-and the door of his heart too-Every man that comes; I say it in the broadest sense-shall find that Christ has mercy for him. The greatest absurdity in the world is to want to have a wider gospel than that recorded in Scripture. I preach that every man that believes shall be saved-that every man who comes shall find mercy. People ask me, "But suppose a man should come who was not chosen, would he be saved?" You go and suppose nonsense and I am not going to give you an answer. If a man is not chosen he will never come. When he does come it is a sure proof that he was chosen. Says one, "Suppose any one should go to Christ who had not been called of the Spirit." Stop, my brother, that is a supposition thou hast no right to make, for such a thing cannot happen; you only say it to entangle me, and you will not do that just yet. I say every man who comes to Christ shall be saved. I can say that as a Calvinist, or as a hyper-Calvinist, as plainly as you can say it. I have no narrower gospel than you have; only my gospel is on a solid foundation, whereas yours is built upon nothing but sand and rottenness. "Every man that cometh shall be saved, for no man cometh to me except the Father draw him." "But," says one, "suppose all the world should come, would Christ receive them?" Certainly, if all came, but then they won't come. I tell you all that come-aye, if they were as bad as devils Christ would receive them; if they had all sin and filthiness running into their hearts as into a common sewer for the whole world, Christ would receive them. Another says, "I want to know about the rest of the people. May I go out and tell them-Jesus Christ died for every one of you? May I say-there is righteousness for every one of you, there is life for every one of you? "No; you may not. You may say-there is life for every man that comes; but if you say there is life for one of those that do not believe, you utter a dangerous lie. If you tell them that Jesus Christ was punished for their sins, and yet they will be lost, you tell a wilful falsehood. To think that God could punish Christ and then punish them-I wonder at your daring to have the impudence to say so! A good man was once preaching that there were harps and crowns in heaven for all his congregation, and then he wound up in a most solemn manner: "My dear friends, there are many for whom these things are prepared who will not get there." In fact, he made such a pitiful tale, as indeed he might do; but I tell you who he ought to have wept for-he ought to have wept for the angels of heaven and all the saints, because that would spoil heaven thoroughly. You know when you meet at Christmas, if you have lost your brother David and his seat is empty, you say: "Well, we always enjoyed Christmas but there is a drawback to it now-poor David is dead and buried! "Think of the angels saying: "Ah! this is a beautiful heaven, but we don't like to see all those crowns up there with cobwebs on, we cannot endure that uninhabited street: we cannot behold yon empty thrones." And then, poor souls, they might begin talking to one another, and say, "we are none of us safe here, for the promise was-'I give unto my sheep eternal life,' and there is a lot of them in hell that God gave eternal life to; there is a number that Christ shed his blood for burning in the pit, and if they may be sent there, so may we. If we cannot trust one promise we cannot another." So heaven would lose its foundation, and fall. Away with your nonsensical gospel! God gives us a safe and solid one, built on covenant doings and covenant relationships, on eternal purposes and sure fulfilments.

    IV. This brings us to the fourth point, THAT BY NATURE NO MAN WILL COME TO CHRIST, for the text says, "Ye will not come unto me, that ye might have life." I assert, on Scripture authority from my text, that ye will not come unto Christ, that ye might have life. I tell you, I might preach to you for ever, I might borrow the eloquence of Remoistens or of Cicero, but ye will not come unto Christ. I might beg of you on my knees, with tears in my eyes, and show you the horrors of hell and the joys of heaven, the sufficiency of Christ, and your own lost condition, but you would none of you come unto Christ of yourselves unless the Spirit that rested on Christ should draw you. It is true of all men in their natural condition that they will not come unto Christ; but, methinks I hear another of these babblers asking a question: - "But could they not come if they liked?" My friend, I will reply to thee another time. That is not the question this morning. I am talking about whether they will, not whether they can. You will notice whenever you talk about free will, the poor Armenian, in two seconds, begins to talk about power, and he mixes up two subjects that
    should be keep apart. We will not take two subjects at once, we decline fighting two at the same time, if you please. Another day we will preach from this text:-"No man can come except the Father draw him." But it is only the will we are talking of now; and it is certain that men will not come unto Christ, that they might have life. We might prove this from many texts of Scripture, but we will take one parable. You remember the parable where a certain king had a feast for his son, and bade a great number to come; the oxen and fatlings were killed, and he sent his messengers bidding many to the supper. Did they go the feast? Ah, no; but they all, with one accord, began to make excuse. One said he had married a wife and therefore he could not come, whereas he might have brought her with him. Another had bought a yoke of oxen, and went to prove them; but the feast was in the night-time, and he could not prove his oxen in the dark. Another had bought a piece of land, and wanted to see it, but I should not think he went to see it with a lantern. So they all made excuses and would not come. Well the king was determined to have the feast; so he said, "Go into the highways and hedges, and" invite them-stop! not invite-"compel them to come in;" for even the ragged fellow sin in the hedges would never have come unless they were compelled. Take another parable: -A certain man had a vineyard; at the appointed season he sent one of his servants for his rent. What did they do to him? They beat that servant. He sent another; and they stoned him. He sent another and they killed him; and, at last, he said, "I will send them my son, they will reverence him." But what did they do? They said, "This is the heir, let us kill him, and cast him out of the vineyard." So they did. It is the same with all men by nature. The Son of God came, yet men rejected him. "Ye will not come unto me, that ye might have life." It would take too much time to mention any more Scripture proofs. We will, however, refer to the great doctrine of the fall. Any one who believes that man's will is entirely free, and that he can be saved by it, does not believe the fall. As I sometimes tell you, few preachers of religion do believe thoroughly the doctrine of the fall, or else they think that when Adam fell down he broke his little finger, and did not break his neck and ruin his race. Why, beloved, the fall broke man up entirely. It did not leave one power unimpaired; they were all shattered, and debased, and tarnished; like some mighty temple, the pillars might be there, the shaft, and the column, and the pilaster, might be there; but they were all broken, though some of them retain much of their form and position. The conscience of man sometimes retains much of its tenderness-still it has fallen. The will, too, is not exempt. What though it is "the Lord Mayor of Man soul," as Banyan calls it: the Lord Mayor goes wrong. The Lord Will-be-will was continually doing wrong. Your fallen nature was put out of order, your will, amongst other things, has clean gone astray from God; but I tell you what will be the best proof of that; it is the great fact that you never did meet a Christian in your life who ever said he came to Christ without Christ coming to him. You have heard a great many Armenian sermons, I dare say, but you never heard an Armenian prayer-for the saints in prayer appear as one in word, and deed and mind. An Armenian on his knees would pray desperately like a Calvinist. He cannot pray about free will: there is no room for it. Fancy him praying, "Lord, I thank thee I am not like those poor presumptuous Calvinists. Lord, I was born with a glorious free-will; I was born with power by which I can turn to thee of myself; I have improved my grace. If everybody had done the same with their grace that I have, they might all have been saved. Lord, I know thou dost not make us willing if we are not willing ourselves. Thou gives grace to everybody; some do not improve it, but I do. There are many that will go to hell as much bought with the blood of Christ as I was; they had as much of the Holy Ghost given to them; they had as good a change, and were as much blessed as I am. It was not thy grace that made us to differ; I know it did a great deal, still I turned the point; I made use of what was given me, and others did not-that is the difference between me and them." That is a prayer for the devil, for nobody else would offer such a prayer as that. Ah, when they are preaching and talking very slowly, there may be wrong doctrine; but when they come to pray, the true thing slips out, they cannot help it. If a man talks very slowly, he may speak in a fine manner; but when he comes to talk fast, the old brogue of his country, where he was born, slips out. I ask you again, did you ever meet a Christian man who said, "I came to Christ without the power of the Spirit?" If you ever did meet such a man, you need have no hesitation in saying, "My dear sir, I quite believe it-and I believe you went away again without the power of the Spirit; and that you know nothing about the matter, and are in the gall of bitterness and the bond of iniquity." Do I hear one Christian man saying, "I sought Jesus before he sought me. I went to the Spirit, and the Spirit did not come to me?" No, beloved; we are obliged, each one of us, to put our hands to our hearts, and say-

    "Grace taught my soul to pray,
    And made my eyes overflow;
    'Taws grace that kept me to this day,
    And will not let me go."

    Is there one here-a solitary one-man or woman, young or old, who can say, "I sought God before he sought me?" No; even you who are a little Armenian, will sing-"

    O yes! I do love Jesus-Because
    he first loved me"

    Then, one more question. Do we not find, even after we have come to Christ, our soul is not free, but is kept by Christ? Do we not find times, even now, when to will is not present with us. There is a law in our members, warring against the law of our minds. Now, if those who are spiritually alive feel that their will is contrary to God, what shall we say of the man who is "dead in trespasses and sins;" It would be a marvellous absurdity to put the two on a level; and it would be still more absurd to put the dead before the living. No; the text is true, experience has branded it into our hearts, "Ye will not come unto me, that ye might have life." Now, we must tell you the reasons why men will not come unto Christ. The first is, because no man by nature thinks he wants Christ. By nature man conceives that he does not need Christ; he thinks that he has a robe of righteousness of his own; that he is well-dressed, that he is not naked, that he needs not Christ's blood to wash him, that he is not black or crimson, and needs no grace to purify him. No man knows his need until God shows it to him; and until the Holy Spirit reveals the necessity of pardon, no man will seek pardon. I may preach Christ for ever, but unless you feel you want Christ you will never come to him. A doctor may have a good shop, but nobody will buy his medicines until he feels he wants them. The next reason is, because men do not like Christ's way of saying them. One says, "I do not like it because he makes me holy; I cannot drink or swear if he saves me." Another says, "It requires me to be so precise and puritanical, and I like a little more license." Another does not like it because it is so humbling; he does not like it because the "gate of heaven" is not quite high enough for his head, and he does not like stooping. That is the chief reason ye will not come to Christ, because ye cannot get to him with your heads straight up in the air; for Christ makes you stoop when you come. Another does not like it to be grace from first to last. "Oh!" he says, "If I might have a little honour." But when he hears it is all Christ or no Christ, a whole Christ or no Christ, he says, "I shall not come," and turns on his heel and goes away. Ah! proud sinners, ye will not come unto Christ. Ah! ignorant sinners ye will not come unto Christ, because ye know nothing of him; and that is the third reason.

    Men do not know his worth, for if they did they would come unto him. Why did not sailors go to America before Columbus went; Because they did not believe there was an America. Columbus had faith, therefore he went. He who hath faith in Christ goes to him; but you don't know Jesus; many of you never saw his beauteous face; you never saw how applicable his blood is to a sinner, how great is his atonement; and how all-sufficient are his merits; therefore, "ye will not come unto him." And oh! my hearers, my last thought is a solemn one. I have preached that ye will not come; but some will say, "it is their sin that they do not come." It is so. You will not come, but then your will is a sinful will. Some think that we "sew pillows to all arm-holes" when we preach this doctrine, but we don't. We do not set this down as being part of man's original nature, but as belonging to his fallen nature. It is sin that has brought you into this condition that you will not come. If you had not fallen, you would come to Christ the moment he was preached to you; but you do not come because of your sinfulness and crime. People excuse themselves because they have bad hearts. That is the most flimsy excuse in the world. Do not robbery and thieving come from a bad heart. Suppose a thief should say to a judge, "I could not help it, I had a bad heart." What would the judge say; "You rascal! why, if your heart is bad, I'll make the sentence heavier, for you are a villain indeed. Your excuse is nothing." The Almighty shall "laugh at them, and shall have them in derision." We do not preach this doctrine to excuse you, but to humble you. The possession of a bad nature is my fault as well as my terrible calamity. It is a sin that will always be charged on men; when they will not come unto Christ it is sin that keeps them away. He who does not preach that I fear is not faithful to God and his conscience. Go home, then, with this thought, "I am by nature so perverse that I will not come unto Christ, and that wicked perversity of my nature is my sin. I deserve to be sent to hell for it." And if the thought does not humble you, he Spirit using it, no other can. This morning I have not preached human nature up, but I have preached it down. God humble us all. Amen.
     
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    Here is why he is called the prince of preachers in my opinion.
    Always enjoy reading Spurgeon.

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    Sinners either welcome Christ into their lives or they resist the Holy Spirit of God. Twenty-first century sinners are no different than those found in Acts 7:51 who happened to be Israelites. In order to welcome or resist the Godhead one has to have a will that is unencumbered. God until the end of time will sovereignly allow men and women to have the leverage of human choice. Luther newly out of Catholicism was hardly qualified to be correct in all his theology and in this case the idea of 'the bondage of the will.' Before his conversion to Christ he was crawling up church steps in his attempt to find grace. We should not project too much confidence on some of these converts like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli who were attached too closely to the Papal chair.

    John 5:40 most strongly shows the free agency of men and women as to whether or not they find Christ. It is the human being who is responsible to find everlasting life. While the Spirit welcomes and encourages people to yield to Christ yet man is responsible to believe and trust in Him. Jesus said, 'And ye will not come to Me, that ye might have life.' Notice He did not say, 'Ye cannot come to Me, that ye might have life.' Choice is always the responsibility of humans. Deuteronomy 30:19 tells us that there is life and death, blessing and cursing and then God says, 'Choose life!' If God says that we can choose something there has to be an option to elect something else. He desires that every sinner comes into the fold of Christ. [I Tim. 2:4 & 6; Titus 2:11; Rev. 22:17] The sinners in John 5:40 Jesus says had a will but they used it in the wrong way. The freedom of the will is the gift of God to everyone of His human created beings.
     
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    This does not say that man can choose. You see in the reference to Deut. you have God's chosen people the nation of Israel, he is telling them to choose that which will result in life more abundant in this world; he is not telling them to do something he knows they cannot do.

    This is not speaking of a people resisting effectual Grace; in Ex. 19 the people of Israel 'chose' to do all the words of the law delivered to them by Moses in order that they would not have to hear the voice of God; God had already redeemed them (typically) from Egypt on eagle's wings; meaning under the law of Grace, of which law we now are under.

    Your confusion is equating the Law of Moses with the Law of Grace; remember, Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ. These people in Acts 7.51 were under the same confusion.

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    Brother Dallas,

    I think you meant "Effectual Call," rather than "Effectual Grace." Every time His general call to salvation goes out, it is effectual. This is documented in Revelation 22:17.

    God has no two tiered Gospel calls as Calvinists insist. There is one general call because the Christian God is not biased or prejudiced toward the alleged non-elect. We are repeatedly told in the Bible that He is a God of justice. God would become a hypocrite if He told us to 'love our enemies' and then despised an autocratically chosen non-elect group, thereby, making them His enemies. Let's keep the Gospel pure.

    As sinners we were or are all the enemies of God, but we have the opportunity to either believe in Him or to turn away from His glorious salvation and hope of eternal life. It was God's choice to give us a free will until the end of time; in this way He can make all sinners responsible to Him at the Great White Throne Judgment.
     
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    Brother Ray,

    I may be wrong, I will concede that much, but I believe in a 'common grace' and an 'effectual grace' just as I said 'effectual grace' above, this is what I did mean.

    What do you imagine happens at the 'end of time' to our so called 'free-will' is it at this time that it is arbitrarily subjected to the Decrees of God?

    Next question, you ended the post as quoted above and seem to be saying that unless man hears the Gospel and finally rejects it, then he is not responsible as a sinner to a Holy and Righteous God, if this is not your meaning then you make God to be the monster you pretend that Sovereign Grace makes him.

    Can you see the contradiction?

    God Bless.
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    I want this to be simple so I remain clear in thought.

    We are subject at all times to the decree of God as found in John 3:18. If we believe in Jesus we are saved. If at anytime the sinner is found outside of Christ he will go into destruction, especially if he or she knows the plan of salvation.

    Those who have never heard there may be a question about their eternal destiny. John 15:22 & 24 says of those believers that if they had not seen His miracles 'they had not had sin.' And in the latter verse Jesus says, 'If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin.'

    If someone has never heard the Gospel of Jesus and tries to love God and sees His handiwork in the world and universe, and has a clear conscience before Him, will God take them to Heaven? I very seldom have heard discussion about these verses in John and their interpretation. I am still not sure if God covers them with His atonement.

    We do know there are degrees of punishment in Hell. [Matt. 23:14; Mark 12:40; Luke 20:47] Maybe those who have not received Christ will end up in Hell, but with a lighter sentence. This is His sovereign decision as to how to punish those who are less worthy of a greater punishment.
     
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    So the call always saves those who hear it? (That is what "effectual call" means -- that it effects it intention.) How does Rev 22:17 document this?
     
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    This is speaking to Israel, to whom were given the oracles of God and the promise of the Messiah. Nationally, Israel did look for the coming of this one, had Jesus not come, they then would not have had this particular sin to their charge. Your discussion concerning this is way off, IMHO, because you would leave one with the impression that a man not having seen Jesus or his works would not be a sinner.

    Unless I am wrong you have the liberty to bring up any scripture you desire to have discussed in this forum.

    IMHO, the 'cloak' Jesus is referring to here is that of the national atonement performed annually, which atonement with the use of the scapegoat and the goat of the offering, (which was sacrificed) to God had in view the promise of the Messiah.

    God Bless.
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    Pastor Larry,

    I said something to the effect that the general call is always effectual.

    It is effectual because whenever the Holy Spirit touches the sinner's life He gets His points through to the lost one. 'And when He is come, He will reprove the WORLD of sin, and of righteousness, and of {coming} judgment.' [John 16:8] He reaches every sinner in a different way. We believe that He is always effectual in convincing the sinner of his need of Christ, but not all sinners will respond to His love and concern for them. We believe that it is possible to resist the grace of God. This does not mean that God is ineffective, only that the sinner can remain in his or her rebellion against God.
     
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    Frogman,

    I don't see anything in this chapter, John 15, that speaks of national sins of Israel. I think we both agree that He was speaking to Israelites in this portion of Scripture. The first phrase of vs. 24 points to His mighty works, His miracles, that were performed in part so that human beings would see that He is God. When He convinced them that He was God in the flesh, He made them responsible for their sins. The Bible says, that 'now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father.' As a side-bar this shows that even these simple Jews saw Christ and rejected Him. They understood the Gospel but wanted to remain in their own dogma and belief system. Just think, they knew Him as being Divine because of His miracles and they never were or ever would be regenerated. Almost but lost!!
     
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    Then the Holy Spirit is not operating in the churches and preaching today. Because of the millions who make the walk to the stage yet after services fall back into a lifestyle 'as if nothing ever happened.' [​IMG]
     
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    We should agree with Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Berrian, etc., when they agree, to the best of our understanding, with God's Word. Anywhere they disagree, to the best of our understanding, with God's Word, we should disagree with them.
     
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    I don't think I agree with Spurgeon on Free will. Free will is what one uses to determine one's attitude and consequently one's behavior, regardless of the situation in which one finds himself. Free will not only shapes one's attitude and behavior, but it also determines one's destiny.

    So as a slave, one can choose to be "free" of slavery while still held in bondage, or one can choose to be a slave while "free". One can choose to be "poor" while extravagantly wealth, or "Rich" while incredibly poor. And one can choose to seek God while under heavy bombardment in a foxhole, with a gun at his head, or be defiant to God's call while seated in a Cathedral of "heavenly splendor". Scripture speaks much of this.
     
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    In neither case is the individual 'free indeed.'

    Salvation is both spiritual and physical redemption and not spiritual only; if in this world only...

    God Bless.
    Bro. Dallas
     
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    In neither case is the individual 'free indeed.'

    Salvation is both spiritual and physical redemption and not spiritual only; if in this world only...

    God Bless.
    Bro. Dallas
    </font>[/QUOTE]I don't agree
     
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    That is ok, with me. There have over the ages been millions of people who have lived in physical slavery who would agree with me. To wish you are free does not end the lashes of the masters whip.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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