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Where are you in the spectrum?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Six-Principle Baptist, May 7, 2003.

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  1. Liberal

    40.4%
  2. Conservative

    15.8%
  3. Evangelical

    17.5%
  4. Moderate

    26.3%
  5. Fundamentalist

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Six-Principle Baptist

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    Out of curiousity since I am new to this board I would appreciate your input as to where you are on the spectrum. Thanks!

    Jimmy
     
  2. Dr. Bob

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    While the BaptistBoard is designed for ALL types of Baptists, it has always had from its outset a position on the very conservative/fundamentalist end of the spectrum.

    Almost all of the moderators would tend toward the right end of the Baptist tree, although we do allow some wascally moderates in from time to time! :eek:
     
  3. dianetavegia

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    That was hard for me to answer! As a Southern Baptist in the deep south, our church is VERY evangelical. I am also VERY conservative! The Fundamental wives in our home school group don't wear pants or make-up and are KJV Onlies so that would prevent me from saying I'm a fundamentalist BUT... I consider my basic beliefs to be very fundamental.

    What would YOU call me?

    Diane :confused:
     
  4. Grasshopper

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    The Fundamental wives in our home school group don't wear pants or make-up and are KJV Onlies

    Is that what "fundamental" has come to?
     
  5. Daniel Dunivan

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    My question for the survey would be, in comparison to what? In a Baptist group, I am a liberal, but in the wider church I am a moderate. It all depends on who you are comparing me to.
     
  6. martyr

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    Grasshopper, unfortunately the term fundamentalism has come to take on the negative connotations of legalism that is practiced in several different denominations today. Those who are called fundamentalist often don't realize this, rather, they are still using the original definition of belief that the Holy Bible is fundamental to Christian living and teaching.

    As for the poll, it was incomplete. I tend to be evangelical, conservative(in that I don't try to take away or add to God's Word), fundamental in the original usage of the word, and liberal in the extent of giving back to God.
    As for anyone that chooses to be moderate, just remember the fate of the luke warm Laodiceans is equivalent to vomit.
     
  7. Jim1999

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    The terms have little or no meaning in Canada. A liberal can be quite evangelical in approach. We tend to steer clear of the term fundamentalist because these are mostly pentecostal in Canada.

    Our group is called The Fellowship of Evangelical Baptists in Canada. When it was first formed in 1953, the term fundamentalist had a distinct meaning; one who believed the Bible to be the Word of God, period. It did not mean premil, dispensational which seems to be an American thing. To Americans, I would prolly be called a liberal. I just don;t like labels, except on my shirts for laundry purposes.

    I fundamentally believe the Bible is the word of God in the original documents and we have in our possession reliable copies. I am liberal in application and attitude, but generally considered to be conservative in Canada.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  8. Baptist Believer

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    Not really... :rolleyes:

    Being "moderate" is not the same thing as being "lukewarm" since the terms "liberal" and "conservative" do not correspond to being "hot" or "cold".
     
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Not really... :rolleyes:

    Being "moderate" is not the same thing as being "lukewarm" since the terms "liberal" and "conservative" do not correspond to being "hot" or "cold".
    </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you, BaptistBeliever. I was going to say something to that effect, but you said it much more concisely than I could.

    I consider myself a moderate.

    I do not camp with the liberal Christians, because of their acceptance of homosexuality and other worldliness and their beliefs that some Bible stories are not literally true.

    Nope, that's not me.

    I also do not camp with the Fundamentalists because I find myself cringing at their overly legal, binding, and concretely held views on women and their "place" in God's world. I also get heart sick when I read of the KJO's and those who despise any music that is not in the Broadman hymnal. (Which, by the way, I love the Broadman hymnal.)

    That's not me either.

    I attend a conservative church with a flaming fundamentalist pastor. I'm not always joyfully happy there, but I am content. It's not the pastor, I serve, but the God we both love and obey.

    And God has called me to serve there, so that's what I do.

    And His work, I sincerely do with a cheerful heart.

    Peace-

    YSIC
    Scarlett O. [​IMG]
    &lt;&gt;&lt;
     
  10. Daniel David

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    BB is right. [snip] It has nothing to do with hot or cold.

    [ May 07, 2003, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
  11. Jim1999

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    In my Father's house are many mansions.........

    The one on the hill without windows or doors is for some Fundamentalists........they think they are the only ones there.....such arrogance! Such rudeness!
     
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    You do realize you're killing any shred of credibility you have left, don't you?
     
  14. Jim1999

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    Ruth, not to trouble yourself. The arrogance of one does not negate the grace and love shown by the vast majority.

    You know where you stand, and the Lord loves you for that. God bless.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    A Canadian conservative
     
  15. TomVols

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    Questioning a person's salvation is not allowable under BB rules. Besides, if you were really concerned about their salvation, wouldn't you witness to them rather than deride them?

    Carry on....
     
  16. Daniel David

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    Those who wish to redefine God are lost. They have created an idol.

    Jim, is it arrogant to say that salvation is in Christ alone? Yes. Do I care? No. It is true either way. So, when a liberal accuses such from me, I am more likely to consider it honor. So, are all American liberals equal to Canadian conservatives?

    Daniel David
    Rebuke them sharply (still relevant for today)
     
  17. Daniel David

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    Ruth, a moderate is just another name for a person who either lacks the ability to spine to stand for a position enough to say that those who are of the opposing side are wrong.

    Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.

    That is exclusive. Do you recognize this?

    Moses, the prophets, David, Solomon, Jesus, Paul, Peter, Matthew, Mark, John, Luke and other biblical writers considered Scripture to have divine origin and therefore perfect and absolutely true in every area.

    That is exclusive. Do you recognize this?

    Jesus claimed to be God. There is no other acceptable view.

    That is exclusive. Do you recognize this?

    and on and on...
     
  18. Daniel David

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    1. I wasn't aware that grace and love included pretending that false teachers and bad theology were okay. You are seriously misguided as to what grace and love are. I may come across harsh, but I don't pretend that lost people are saved for the sake of your definition of "grace". What you really mean is tolerance, don't you Jim?

    2. I read that also in the Bible. Sincerity will cover a multitude of sins.

    3. No doubt.
     
  19. Jim1999

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    I think I recognize who you are by the tone and sarcasm in the post. You are not worth even reading. I pity any church that gets stuck with you as a pastor. This dear woman did not deserve wot you said to her. You ought to be ashamed. You can shovel your dirt at me cos I can either ignore it or feed it back. The fact is, scripture also says to not pour out the message before swine, but rather to wipe the dust off the sandals and go on one's way.

    Your remarks are not worth the time of day.
     
  20. Daniel David

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    I am amazed (not really) at the lack of love and grace you demonstrate to those who believe you are wrong Jim. Apparently, those who cry for tolerance are not tolerant of those who are not tolerant. Classic.

    Btw, that might be a warm blanket at night for you, but I am concerned enough for the souls of people to at the very least, present what I am convinced of. They can of course reject it. That is not my responsibility. I just deliver. Did not Paul seek to persuade?

    This is not directed at anyone here, but being old and spineless is not the same as having wisdom.
     
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