The Things We Don't Deserve

What did we do to deserve that.

Just kidding, but don't give up the day job.

 

Good job G25. Don't pay any attention to the negativity.

 

Harsh dude, just harsh.

 

If G25 is determined to succeed he'll have to deal with harsher critics than me.

As an artist I know from experience that criticism is not always easy to deal with. Granted, my criticism is hardly constructive but I'm no expert in songwriting so I'll leave that to some of the other writers around here.

At the same time I don't have to be an expert to recognise that this work is substandard at best.

As a Christian I personally feel that it would be wrong to say "well done"/"good job" etc , that wouldn't be honest, would it?

Hopefully if people are honest G25 will recognise that he needs to take some lessons in songwriting, the last thing he needs is false praise that will leave him thinking he is something that he is not.

 

You're improving!

 

I take it you haven't dealt with enda all that much? Encouragement isn't really one of his strong points.

Actually you can. There are somgwriting organizations all over the country that have classes and workshops.

I got to take one about two years ago with Jimmie Dale Gilmore.

Everybody has their own writing style. Brian Wilson is drastically different from Lyle Lovett. Carole King is drastically different from Mac McAnally. Willis Allan Ramsey is drastically different from Harlan Howard.

They're still all great songwriters.

I liked your song but, in all honesty, there are some things that I would done differently (and, remember, that it's very hard to judge a song without hearing it with the music) but then it would be my song. You've got to do what you do, not what I do.

I look forward to it.

 

I'm not a musician, I'm an artist. You can be taught to express your feelings more clearly.

My guess is that you must be a more accomplished musician than you are a songwriter. Don't feel you MUST do both. That's a mistake many artists make.

I'm sure there must be accomplished songwriters out there who would benefit from working with someone who has the ability to write music.

Feel free, but don't expect everyone to humour you.

Mike says encouragement is not my strong point, he doesn't understand what I'm saying. I'm not discouraging you from trying to express your faith in music. I AM encouraging you to wait until you can DO IT WELL before you start releasing CDs.

Thats the type of encouragement you need. You don't need people telling you this kind of writing is good, that'll just give you a false confidence and will lead to you being ridiculed and made to look foolish if you insist in going public with this standard of material.

Don't let yourself down by adding bad lyrics to good music.

 

Hay G25 Its good. And to all of you that have posted If you are ture Christian you must think of what you say and how you say thing. You may Say some that may intern realy hurt a person(I don't mean Physically but mentally). Opinion are opinion but word can be a weapon for good or bad. Even thought the saying is "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." I realy think it should say "Stick and stones may break my bones, but words can REALLY HURT ME."

I'm not tring to start any thing but you should allways think befor you speak or in this case Type.

Wedge Former

 

Oh right then, I can only post here if I'm going to tell you I like your lyrics. Do you want me to sacrifice honesty in order to encourage you?

You'll need to develop a much thicker skin if you're going to go public with this stuff, sounds to me as if you can't handle honest criticism.

You only seem interested in fishing for compliments and it's my guess that your little fan club here will soon grow weary of indulging you.

And by the way I know it's only lryics but lyrics are a very important aspect of this kind of work. I'm already assuming that you are capable of producing music which is suitable for Christian ears. That's probably a wild assumption to make but I've given you the benefit of the doubt for the sake of seeing some progress in your lyrics.

One last peace of advice, if you are serious about this you will never make any progress unless you take on board negative criticism, I could tell you that you're great until the cows come home but that wouldn't benefit you in the long run.

As an artist, I've been where you are right now, and I'll tell you those who are patting you on the back are misguided in their attempts to encourage you, they are merely stifling progress.

That's all I'll say for now, but I will be reading anything you post here, and will tell you what I think of it, wheather you want to take it on board or not is up to you.

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Lyrics are (obviously) a very important aspect of this kind of work but, in a song, the lyrics must be taken in the context of the music.

The music can drastically change the setting, tone and meaning of the lyrics.

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