Evolutionary Propoganda - A True Story

Mark, you were called on one specific issue - questioning the salvation of others. In order to show hypocrisy in the moderator, you must therefore find where somebody questioned your salvation and got away with it. The posts you cited above don't seem to have that defining criterion in them. In my opinion, you have been bearing false witness against the moderator when you accuse them of unfairly singling you out.

 

Well, in truth, there has been hypocrisy in applying the rules in general. One of the BB rules is:

I think Mark does have a point here.

 

Mark,
Respectfully as a Christian brother I think you crossed the line. You accused others of being heretics, unbelievers and infidels because they did not believe in a literal 6 day creation. Not mistaken, not misguided, not ill-informed but heretics and infidels. There's little in the way of excuse for that. I don't mind you disagreeing with long age creation and presenting your viewpoint but don't you think saying people who disagree with you are heretics, unsaved, infidels ....etc is a huge inductive step from that ? I was saved by the blood of the Lamb. John 3:16. Jesus is Lord and I can tell you buddy we're all , young Earthers, Long Age Creationists going to meet in heaven. Amen. I'll shake your hand in heaven Mark. You too Brett, Steve...et al.

 

I would contend that before the flood the day could have been slightly more than 24 hours due to the conservation of angular momentum

What do you think? OF course the early people would have had no way of knowing as accurately as we do. However things would have been seen as quite precise though.

 

Hi Mark,
Hope all is well with you.

Dont have any problem with your first paragraph.

What do I want from you ?

I have no problem with your stating your case and what you believe.

Perhaps quiet reflection on calling others heretics and infidels for not believeing a literal 6 day creation. Remember the meaning of days is hotly debated. Allow that people can be sincerely wrong but still followers of Christ.

best wishes and have a great weekend.

Doug

 

YEC literalists assert that the earth was created in six 24 hour days.

 

Mark,

What scriptural evidence do you have that one needs to believe in scriptural inerrancy in order to be saved?

 

What do you do with those who provide a testimony of a changed and renewed life in Christ - with those who profess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, who say they have experienced new life in Christ?

What about those who accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour and then for whatever reason pass away several days later without really learning that God created the world in 6 24-hour days? Are they lost?

 

It is possible that one can be a Christian and an evolutionist, but such a position as this now places the theistic evolutionist in an indefensible position biblically. This position is dishonoring to God as well as in a direct disagreement with his Creator and Saviour. Is the servant wiser than his Lord?

I now belong to an IFB Church, because I’ve seen the evolutionists elbowing there way into numerous churches, United Methodists, which I used to be a member of and the Southern Baptists, which I visited with their ‘spiritualizing’ the gospel and allegorizing Genesis, b/c fallible man can’t be wrong.

In Mark chapter 10, when the Pharisees questioned Jesus about divorce, Jesus replies But from the beginning of creation God made them male and female. Jesus then quotes Genesis 2:24. Since Jesus was an eyewitness to His Fathers creation, I’ll take the word of my Saviour over any man!

As I stated once before, all of us that are saved will stand before the Judgment seat of Christ and will be judged according to our works. Yes, Faith in the Word of God will be apart of those works.

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

[ October 31, 2003, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: john6:63 ]

 

John 6:63,

This passage is specifically talking about lost people - people who did not believe in Jesus at all. It is on the basis of such Scriptures that I conclude a man who does not believe in Genesis does not believe in Christ, for Christ said it is impossible to believe in one without believing in the other.

Mark Osgatharp </font>[/QUOTE]Leviticus 11:22-23 "Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind. But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you. " (KJV)

Remind me again why you feel you don't have to believe that there actually exist any species with four feet that fly? Remember, according to your own testimony, your salvation depends on your believing these words to be inerrantly inspired and perfectly accurate. On the other hand, you are strictly charged to rightly divide the word of truth, so its not right to arbitrarily make up an interpretation that doesn't really make sense, such as that one of the pairs of the legs aren't really legs, or something silly like that.

 

Mark, what evidence do you have that the day before the flood was exactly 24 hours?

 

Prov. 10:19, "When there are many words, transgression is unavoidable, But he who restrains his lips is wise."

 

From Leviticus, you quoted,

The NIV translation uses the phrase "which walk on all fours." And some commentators theorize that hind legs used for jumping might not have been counted as "ordinary" legs by OT writers.

 

The NIV translation uses the phrase "which walk on all fours." And some commentators theorize that hind legs used for jumping might not have been counted as "ordinary" legs by OT writers. </font>[/QUOTE]Pssst . . . notice . . . the OTHER flying creeping things which have four feet don't HAVE those jumping legs.