what music is over the line for you?

I can't think of a genre that I consider sinful.

This, though, I do not understand. If something is sinful, it's sinful. I could agree with you if you'd said that there are some things that some people find edifying and others do not, or that there are some people who choose to be more restrictive in their choices than others, or that there are some people who choose to be less restrictive in their choices than others. But if - oh, I don't know . . jazz, for example, is sinful, then it can't not be sinful for some people.

I think maybe I know what you were trying to say, but you may have meant exactly what you said, hence my little diatribe.

 

I don't know.

I can't make a case to condemn music by genre and the kinds of music I listen to don't really lend themselves to controversey.

I think it all depends on the context of the song.

For example, when I mention here on BaptistBoard that I'm a Parrothead, the first reaction is almost always, "But what about "Why Don't We Get Drunk and *****".

The song isn't condoning those things. In fact, it was written as satire to point out the hypocrisy of the country music crowd of the early '70's.

He's pointing out the hypocrisy of them claimimg to be a "family" enterprise, yet putting out sexually explicit material.

To be specific, it was written in response to Conway Twitty's "Let's Go All The Way" and "I Can Tell You've Never Been This Far Before".

Do we condemn his music for that (even though most of us would agree with him in principle) and ignore even more songs of his that have profoundly pro-family messages.

I don't kow if that makes sense or not. All I'm trying to say is that we need to evaluate each song on it's on merits.

 

Definitely Dixieland Music (HA!)

 

I had always thought that all country-western
music was evil, until Mike McK set me straight on
that. What I hate is any music which condones sin
and/or uses profanity. It does not make me sin to
listen to it; I just don't listen to it.

Neither do I think it sinful to listen to music other
than hymns. My taste in music is quite eclectic,
so I enjoy many kinds of music. I enjoy the
public broadcsting radio stations, because I
never know WHAT they may play! But mainly, I
listen to classical, and my favorite composer is
Rachmaninoff -- this year. 8o)

 

Rap.

 

Any music that has profanity, sexually explicit or hate mongering lyrics.

Not all of these things are specific to one genre of music. I never know what will offend me until I am squinting my eyes and trying to block it out of my consciousness.

I'm the same with T.V. or movies... I can't consciously say what I will find offensive until I get that anxious feeling that is my cue that it's not good for me. It's a physical reaction really.

Laurenda

 

Songs of sex, violence, drinking and drugs, and hate are not allowed. I am sure there are more.


"Disturb", "Tatu", "System of a Down".


Those type of bands are not allowed in my house or car. And my children are not allowed to listen to them.

Sherrie

 

Songs with non-Christian religious lyrics in English. If it's Arabic or whatever, I don't really know, do I?

When I'm reading the Bible I don't like music with any lyric, because it's distracting.

 

"Disturb", "Tatu", "System of a Down"

Maybe I should go get the Tatu album so I'll have the trifecta.

(The first one's Disturbed.)

 

A.J.Armitage....I am missing your point...not sure what you are trying to say to my comment.

Sherrie

 

I agree lyrics are a seperate topic within music.
Country worse than Rock n Roll because, you can understand the lyrics of Country.

As for Music alone---
Music is a language. Frank Gardlock has a video series that describes music on what is good and what is bad. Rock n Roll is bad, country, western, all bad. Most CCM is bad. All they do is add different lyrics.

Good music has accents on the 1 and 3. Bad music (rock n Roll) has accents on 2 and 4. They refers this as the "back-beat". It makes you want to dance, or shall I say it feeds the flesh, not the spirit.

 

Mostly Bad.

There is a debate today if you have to use a reference to God to be gospel. What is up with that. Mostly Bad

For the most part good

Bad

Thats probably your spirit convicting you that it is wrong. It is worldy music with different lyrics. Either way it is of the world and we should be seperate from the world.

Yes, sometimes people put a sensual beat to these hymns that don't belong.

 

Sherrie;

I have albums by Disturbed and System of a Down. If I got the one from Tatu, that would be all three, hence, the trifecta.

 

Once again, this is what the whole argumant hinges on.
But where is this in the Bible? Dancing isn't always "of the flesh" (sensual). It is in the Bible, and God had accepted it. Sitting rigidly in some pew singing some cerebral song, filled with pride often, content that you are so pleasing to God compared to "the barbarians" or "those nasty dancing sinners", this is "of the flesh". Marching can be of the flesh. This whole issue boils down to culture, and it is so far off scriptural base it has to be forced into it, and even that is a flimsy job when you really look at it closely.

 

Ok. So music is a bunch of black notes on white paper with staff lines. Underneath, you'll find lyrics. Music consists of rhythms, melodies, harmonies, words, dissonance, conflict, resolution, suspension, completion and a myriad of other elements.

The problem of music begins with the message and intent of the musician. The author has a message and reason for the music. The "heart" if you will. The purpose for which it is written and perfomed.

The problem is, many of us don't understand the message and intent behind the music. We get easily captured by the style of the sounds, the "catch" or "hook" of the lyrics. In other words, many people disconnect their brains and listen with only their emotions. But, true worship demands we use our brains, that we become discerners of truth, able to be workmen who are not ashamed.

Some food for thought.

 

If you listen to the music first, and can't tell the difference between it and the world's music, then it's gone over the line for me. Music has to appeal to the spirit first, then the soul, and the body last. If I find I want to tap my foot, it's over. If the beat is out of sync., or causes my heart to grieve, it's over. If the voice swoons, it's over. If it's too loud, it's over. I don't like the feeling of music that is over the line for me.

 

But instead if you find you want to march, it's OK?

Does that include the old songs the way many churches play them that sound like funeral dirges?