Was Jesus Christ Born With A Sin Nature?

No

 

I think your analysis of the Gethsemane prayer is flawed. His entire prayer expressed submission to the will of the Father. Obviously, Jesus wasn't going to jump for joy that he was going to bear the sins of the world, but his prayer was not, IMO, motivated by evil/sinful nature or desire.

 

If He had a sin nature He was not qualified to take away the sins of the world.

 

Paul tells us in Romans that Jesus was the last Adam, in contrast to the first Adam. This may be (at least in part) reference to Jesus having a perfect human nature, the way Adam's was originally. He was able to make choices and therefore potentially able to sin, but chose to be perfectly obedient to the Father and therefore never sinned and also never aquired a sin nature. Adam had chosen to disobey and thereby aquired a sin nature, which he then passed down to the rest of us.

 

How could he have had a sin nature and be sinless? He couldn't.

 

ABSOLUTELY NO!!!!!He was God before the foundation of the world....God the Son...without SIN or the ability or nature to do so.He was and is the Lamb of God...perfect,sinless,without spot or blemish....again...ABSOLUTELY NO.Any suggestion otherwise comes straight from the mouth of the wicked god of this world who hates our PERFECT Saviour.

Greg Sr.

 

Having a sin nature would not necessarily guarantee than a man would sin—it would simply mean that he had a disposition toward sinning. For example, an alcoholic may have a disposition toward drinking alcoholic beverages but he still has a choice of whether to drink or not. Jesus, therefore, could have had a disposition toward sin without having ever given into temptation.

Adam, however, was tempted to sin, and after he sinned, something about him changed to where he had a disposition toward sinning and everyone born after him inherited this disposition because they sinned in Adam.

Rom. 5:12. Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned--
13. for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Jesus, however, was an exception, and the only exception, because He did not sin in Adam and whatever happened to Adam that gave him a disposition to sin after his initial sin did not happen to Jesus because he never sinned. I believe that Jesus was born with the same human nature as Adam was before his initial sin and could have sinned but chose not to because He loved his Father and He chose, therefore, to submit to Him and His will. This is a subject, however, upon which theologians have very strong and conflicting opinions and at no time in Church history do we find a consensus of opinion. I chose not to debate this topic on this message board, so I will not be defending my view against those who disagree with me.

 

Yes would be better to reference that Jesus was tempted - and then access the definition of temptation in the Bible

 

I agree with Graig's choice of Scripture concerning Adam's passing on the sin nature in Romans 5:14, and this is also reiterated by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:20-22.

But I must say that I am am somewhat agast that no one here has mentioned the fact yet that Jesus' Father was not a human father, but rather God Himself, so that Jesus did not have a sin nature.

I also disagree with Jason on his statement in this context of sin nature:

David wrote this by the Holy Spirit:

"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." Ps. 51:5

Adam and Eve did not start out with a sin nature though, but when they fell they passed on this nature to all their decendents throughout history as is clearly stated in Romans 5 and 1 Cor. 15. That is why we can also have Jesus as our federal head to render to all His imputed righteousness (2 Cor. 5:21) through one's faith and trust in His finished work on the cross.

 

So, you believe that god created Adam so he would sin? You believe that God created Adam as a flawed being (destined to sin and die)? You believe that God created Adam so he could sin and then God could sacrifice His Son for that sin?

I can't see that. I believe God created Adam as a perfect man. That had he chose to not sin, he would still be alive today and Jesus would not have had to come to earth. Instead, Adam did sin, he did become mortal and Jesus had to save us from that sin.

 

Jason, I'm wondering...
are you one of these righteous few, and how did you acquire your righteousness?

And how long do you expect to live in your present physical body here on Earth?

I mean without having to read your entire web site for an answer.

A side note here. If Jason's a Baptist...I'm a canary.

 

choice is what led to the sin. being tempted and falling into the temptation. if Jesus was tempted in the way we are tempted (I think scripture says he was) yet He chose not to sin. can we separate sin nature from the nature to be tempted?

 

Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Is this the nature that Christ had? Why is this even being seriously discussed?

 

If you read Jason's web site you would know why he is. But why are we?