Stay-at-home Dads Part II

What perverted bible are some of you reading that says husbands are required to be the breadwinners, and wives are supposed to stay at home exclusively? This is warped theology if I ever heard any.

 

I wish my wife made more then I did. I am secure enough to just appriceate the money that comes into our joint account. I dont care whos pay check it comes from. I am also realistic enougth to know that a career in law enforcement will never make make big money. Being in a low paying field of work like law enforcement it is not uncommon at all to have the wife make more money. I know and work with several in this situation and they have not probelm. My manhood is not based on the salary that I make. If yours is then I feel sorry for you if something should ever happen where you could not work.

Amen. You forgot to say that it is the most rewarding thing and the most important thing you have ever done.

 

No, the Bible is clear that women are not to pastor.

If a woman makes more money then a man, does this place her in athority above a man?

If a man stays home and a woman works can he not be the leader of his house?

Sometimes the situation works out that a woman needs to work. Either the household needs two incomes or the woman has skills that make it more benificial for her to work or the man is disabled. I find it ideal that the woman stay home with the kids but this is not always possable. She can nurture when she is home and he can be the leader in his house all day while teaching the kids.

What about this hypothetical situation.
A man has the ability to do menial labor say $8.00hr. His wife has a collage degree say $18.00 hr potental. The man wants to teach his kids at home and has patence and what it takes to be a good home school teacher. The mother is not really interested in teaching the kids at home, wants to send them to public school. As the leader of a household thinking about what is best for the kids (not your pride) what desition would you make? Would you or could you force your wife to stay home and teach your kids? Would she do a good job even though her heart is not in it? Can you live on $8.00?

 

Not all men feel this way. Like I said I work in law enforcement. It is not hard for a woman or anyone for that matter to make more then me. If this were always the case then you would have no cops to protect you or most all cops would be depressed because most of our wifes make more then us. Is law enforcement not manly because if is inferior in pay? I know alot of guys who would disagree with that.

I agree, but it is the same for men. Dont you regret being away from your kids all day. Maybe both parents should stay home and nobody work then the kids would have the best of both parents all the time. They would be the smartest kids under the viaduct.

"the children become a bother more than a blessing...after comming home from a hard day of work." Thats rediculous, do you feel that way when you get home.

I agree, I said mom staying home is ideal. But we all do the best we can for our familys.

I agree, it is hard finding other male friends during the day. I do have a very good friend that has recently been working night and staying home during the day like me. But I think women are more likely to socelized during the day with there kids. Unfortenatly we almost never get to gether during the day with our kids. Women may have the advantage there.

I want my sons to do what is the best for there familes, even if it means personal sacrifice. If my sons are exelent teachers to there kids and my daughter in law has the skills to make an exelent living in the work place. I would not mind seeing my son lead his house from home.

I agree. However there are some who have to. If we could live on my income alone my wife would quit in a heartbeat and I would let her. I would sure get alot more sleep.

I guess we all make the best decitions we know how for our familes. Being a good leader means making wise decitions and I am doing my best.

 

One more question. Should a wife always intentionly make less then a man? In other words if the man makes $10 should a woman look for jobs that only pay under $10?

And if a man becomes unemployed should the woman quit her job so as not to make more?

Or are you saying that women do not belong in the work place, period?

 

Then I'm going to have a problem someday. I'm a data analyst, making about 50K a year, and work 8-10 hour days. My wife is a teacher with a masters in education, and while she's currently making 10K less than me, she plans on eventually being a college professor, potentially earning at least 10k or 20k more than me. I'm perfect happy in my chosen profession, and, seeing as how we make more than enough to meet our expenses, I see no need to seek a job for additional income.

Your argument fails terribly here.

What planet were you born on that you don't think husbands and fathers feel the same way? To be honest, if a father doesn't feel that way about his wife and children, something's wrong with him, imo.

Now, in my case, my wife works fewer hours than me, and will still work fewer hours than me when she becomes a college professor. Again, your argument fails.

Regardless of how many hours a man works, any father that is not nurturing is not being a responsible father. Your argument here is not based on scripture, but a manmade view.

I can find no scriptural requirement for male bonding. Most of my male bonding is done with my son.

Interesting. Once, when I was laid off, I got a job as a daycare provider. I did it for 6 months. It was an awesome experience. If it weren't for the money, I'd probably have done it longer. But I got a permanent job offer that I couldn't refuse.

Since I was doing it to provide income for the home, and it was my work, your argument fails terribly here.

However, I do think it's morally wrong for a parents to pump out kids and then stick them in daycare all day long and let someone else raise their kids. I personally think children should stay at home until they're roughly kindergarten aged.

When I was working day care, I was a provider and leader. Again, your argument is baseless.

Your view is inconsistent, because you hold to the view that men should make more than women.

I do agree with you here to a point, but so long as a parent is there when the kids get home from school, there is nothing immoral or ungodly about a woman working.

 

G2G, it would help if you knew Scripture in context.

 

No, it doesn't sound right.

Several here have said that they do not feel that they should make all the money and that their wife should not work. They don't have that desire that you seem to think is God-given. Did God just forget to give them that desire? I propose that it is a desire born out of unwillingness to change a tradition and out of materialistic pride.

No, allowing women to work is not going to inevitably lead to gay marriage. The question of women in leadership positions outside the church is being discussed elsewhere right now--many of us see no problem with it. Since the question of women pastors is completely unrelated to women holding secular jobs, that's irrelevant.

 

I find this irksome. I think that the reason you and I are so opposed on this is because you think that men should be macho and I think they should be masculine.

macho: characterized by machismo : aggressively virile

machismo: 1 : a strong sense of masculine pride : an exaggerated masculinity
2 : an exaggerated or exhilarating sense of power or strength

I don't think that a person's masculinity or femininity is necessarily derived from the job that they do. A man can be masculine and be a nursing home attendant. A woman can be feminine and be an astronomer.

On the other hand, men who are macho aren't masculine, in my opinion. To me proper mature masculinity or femininity requires a sense of self-assurance--not pride, but an ability to overlook the criticisms of others if you know you're making a good decision. If a man needs to go out and look for a job that requires hard physical labor, danger, or aggressiveness in order to feel like he's proved he's a man--or feels the need to keep his wife from getting a job she would like because it is too high priority or pays to well--I would say he's immature.

 

That's not what scripture says. It says that wives should be keepers of their homes. How a wife fulfills that calling is completely between her and her husband. A wife is not scripturally required to remain in the house to be a homekeeper.