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  1. JonC
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    Penal Substitution Gospel

    I also believe Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. But I believe somewhat differently. I believe this is according to the...
    Post by: JonC, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  2. JonC
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    I am a Baptist

    I agree that Isaiah 53 and Romans are not theories. I am not sure what that has the do with anything I posted. I was arguing against Penal...
    Post by: JonC, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  3. 37818
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    I am a Baptist

    . Isaiah 53 is not theory. Romans 5:8 with Romans 6:23 is not theory. The terminology Penal Substitution fits.
    Post by: 37818, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  4. JonC
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    Bible Proof that MY SIN was Placed on Jesus by Penal Substitutionary Atonement.

    Except those verses do not prove that your sins were placed on Jesus by penal substitution. In fact, you have altered at least one verse (the...
    Post by: JonC, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  5. JonC
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    I am a Baptist

    I said "Baptist" (or meant to). Yes, absence of any evidence when we have their writings about their belief is proof.
    Post by: JonC, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  6. 37818
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    Debates among penal substitution advocates

    Too many arguments. So I do not care. Since neither has anything to do with my view. Scriptures are concise enough. Romans 6:23 with Romans 5:8.
    Post by: 37818, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  7. Arthur King
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    Debates among penal substitution advocates

    Not all perspectives on penal substitution are the same. Penal substitution advocates have disagreements within themselves, mainly on 2 main...
    Post by: Arthur King, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  8. 37818
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    I am a Baptist

    Groups called by the name "Baptist" did not exist until the 17th century. And silence on the use of that terminology doesn't prove your case....
    Post by: 37818, Jul 22, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  9. Arthur King
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    The biblical text, in many places, says clearly that Christ died for our sins. Yes! It says that Jesus died FOR us, and it also says Jesus dies...
    Post by: Arthur King, Jul 21, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  10. The Archangel
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    No. The "offerer" exists in a state of death which is not brought about by any given individual sin. Once the sacrifice has been offered and the...
    Post by: The Archangel, Jul 21, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  11. Alan Gross
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    Bible Proof that MY SIN was Placed on Jesus by Penal Substitutionary Atonement.

    Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? Jesus was "smitten of God"; Isaiah 53:4; "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did...
    Post by: Alan Gross, Jul 20, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  12. Piper
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    Penal Substitutionary Atonement

    Tom Schreiner's excellent summary defense of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. Human beings need a substitute since “all have sinned and fall...
    Post by: Piper, Jul 20, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  13. Piper
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    He is not lying. Strong, sound exegesis supports Penal Substitution.
    Post by: Piper, Jul 20, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  14. Arthur King
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    See 1 Peter 2:18-25, the longest NT commentary on Isaiah 53. Peter explicitly states that Jesus' death was unjust. Also see the words of the...
    Post by: Arthur King, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  15. Arthur King
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    I'm not sure what your view is... After all our exchanges, and all the theologians I have quoted, I have no idea how you could say this. I have...
    Post by: Arthur King, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  16. DaveXR650
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    Why is his opinion not valid but Arthur's made up illustrations are? And why are you the arbitrator of what is "Biblical". As far as opinions,...
    Post by: DaveXR650, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  17. DaveXR650
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    I'm not sure what your view is, and obviously, neither is JonC, but Aquinas, Luther and Anselm for sure did not support what you have presented so...
    Post by: DaveXR650, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  18. JonC
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    I think the issue here is you say Isaiah 53 is about Penal Substitution and @Arthur King says it is about Jesus experiencing a penal sentence...
    Post by: JonC, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  19. 37818
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    That Isaiah 53 is about Biblical penal substitution. And yes it my opinion Even as the topic of this thread is your opinion. A concluding...
    Post by: 37818, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
  20. Arthur King
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    Isaiah 53 doesn't support penal substitution

    No, it is not a lot of rhetoric. That is an objectively false and substanceless characterization of what I have said. Lying on the internet is...
    Post by: Arthur King, Jul 19, 2023 in forum: Baptist Theology & Bible Study
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