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John Wayne and Natalie wood. I'll need to check that one out.

Yes, I'm simply asking you to consider the context in Scripture. Yes, and 1000 years from now "they" will be saying the same thing about today's Charismatics and Pentecostals. But is it true history, or false history? It's obviously false. Let us use the "Sword" to determine that. "It is...

Cathode It's not tradition to hold to the Bible. The mere fact that you said "You hold to Protestant and Baptist traditions, which don’t have a history going back to the Apostles" proves that it is you who who puts extra value on tradition. You're the one who quoted Catholic theologians as...

Would the original Rooster Cogburn be considered a Spaghetti western? That was great movie. John Wayne, Cathy Hepburn. The new resent remake really stunk.

I googled "best spaghetti westerns that you never heard of" and got this. Anything here familiar to you guys? A Bullet for the General (1966), Cemetery Without Crosses (1969), The Big Gundown (1967), Keoma (1976), and Tepepa (1969)

I'll need to check out that book. Maybe I can get an audio version and listen to it at work.

Watch it Abe, I seen him do some things!

Cathode You're assuming miraculous into that statement. Not that it has any authority, as it is not the word of God, but tradition. in 1 Corinthians, healing is listed as gifts of healings, and were practical, as they were listed separate from miracles. A doctor who cured specific illnesses, is...

Hi Cathode The sign gifts had a specific purpose. You are continually muddying the waters between the sign gifts and the gifts all together. This is causing confusion for you. You must in your mind separate the two to understand what I'm saying. We are not adding to the NT. That's what was...

I'll need to remember that the next time I go to Akron.

Warning. I may define spaghetti westerns a bit differently than you do. For me, they don't need to be made in Italy, or even directed by an Italian director. As long as they are made cheap and in the flavor of the typical spaghetti western, as far as I'm concerned, they qualify. --Good, Bad...

Cathode, 'according to His own will' at the end of that passage 'His will' is explained in The Bold. Hebrews 2:3-4 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was *confirmed* to us by those who heard Him, God also bearing...

Hey Cathode The sign gifts had a purpose, that was God's purpose. That was all explained earlier. Yes, *all* were healed. Otherwise it would not have confirmed the message and the messenger, which is exactly what it was intended to do. The purpose was not the healing, as every single person who...

Hi Cathode The Bible is Church history too. You're painting extremes again and ignoring the distinction between the God answering faithful prayer, and the true gift of healing. I'll tell you what, lets make it simple, when you walk into a hospital and heal everyone, regardless of faith, that's...

These are all listed as sign gifts. Tongues (as per Pentecost miracle), healing (everyone). Who passed this test? No one today. The Apostles and maybe some close associates, but no one today. Mark 16: 17-20 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons...

Hey again Cathode. Often times the discussions that we as Christians have surrounding the gifts are framed into an all or nothing discussion, when in reality, that's just painting extremes to make one side appear less extreme. I think, for the most part that we agree that God is the source of...

@KenH I always like acoustic. One the comes to mind, I hope you don't mind, is from this young lady. I really loved the guitar play. The rain song is a beautiful acoustic. Plus, with a few words changed, it really makes a good praise song. If you really want to go out on a limb you may...

Hey Cathode. Sorry it took a while to reply. I used to go to a Pentecostal church for a while, and I am familiar with all the stories and attempts to justify tongues for today. While it is true that we should always seek to edify the Body with the gifts, for the sign gifts, the sign was always...

@Dave G , @Silverhair, @Charlie24 Something that stood out to me and has always bothered my was that we are always elect, or chosen "in Him". That was significant beyond the way most people understand it. Over and over in Ephesians 1 that point was emphasized. I wondered if we should be...

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of the details. It's something I ran across recently and I'm running it across you Baptist board dwellers. I believe that the same word translated 'elect' in Matthew 24:22-24 is also used in verse in chapter 22:14 with the word "chosen". Matthew 22:1-14 provides...