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  1. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    You still have never explained just where did our deserved wrath God had stored up to place upon us in judgement actually went to
  2. J

    Divine Justice

    he cannot do that until and allow His divine wrath towards us as sinners gets appeased/satisfied, as the soul that sins must die
  3. J

    Divine Justice

    In order to allow God those get them born again, His divine wrath towards them as sinners must get appeased/satisfied, He cannot just see their are repenting and want to get save, so he just forgets their sins then
  4. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    We can do NOTHING to ever merit anything from God, as it all grace period
  5. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Unbelief in jesus as being ones Savior and Lord and God , as holding to another jesus
  6. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Denying Jesus was and is God is surest way to get to wrong destination
  7. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    He decides to let one murderer go free die to him having a change of heart, is sorry, confesses, agrees to do better, yet how would that balance the scales of justice though?
  8. J

    Divine Justice

    If this was the truth, then its still God deciding to "play favorites" as he should just be able to forgive all sinners, so if he only does seem, is that not him being cruel? That would be the logical conclusion of a doctrine denying that God actually has to have His divine wrath appeased and...
  9. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    The Atonement "purpose" was to have the Holy Wrath of A Holy God directed towards all of us be appeased and satisfied by the father accepting the blood shed and death of Jesus as surety for all our sins , as that divine Wrath must be accounted for in our theology, as God does not just forget it...
  10. J

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    God has been storing up for all of us divine wrath based upon our sinning against Him and His Holy law, and that sins MUST be atoned for and provide a surety towards a Holy God Holy wrath against sin To provide for God the very basis to be able to offer eternal life to any of us as a free gift...
  11. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    yes, It is often attacked by caricatures and strawmen Is not when anyone rejects Psa for the atonement they really are reacting to the concept of Jesus enduring the wrath of God for our sake as being "pagan concept? Indeed Cosmic child abuse?" As have read various authors who used that very...
  12. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    But when you conclusion in regards to theology proper end ups flying in the face of all the Creeds and Confessions, and the teachings of various expositors over the centuries, NOT just Baptist but across all conservative Christians theologies, that should give us pause to really check to make...
  13. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    ALL of us here who are saved were saved the same way, its just that Calvinism explains it much more from the biblical perspective on how and why God saved us
  14. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    But you take your stance on the full free will gospel, so did Jesus death to you be for a real salvation, or just offering a potential one, as in God looks down from heaven hoping someone can make the right choice and choose Jesus to save them?
  15. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    No, rather he is suggesting that sometimes those who either misunderstood what Calvinism really teaches, or else are very angry/bitter at it can at times go so far other way they embrace doctrines and theology counter to the Cross itself, ending up with a severe misunderstanding of Pauline...
  16. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    Number 1 on this list has to be Leighton Flowers: A former Southern Baptist pastor who now argues against Calvinism and has become a prominent voice for the broader evangelical public on the topic of Calvinism, according to Facebook posts and Reddit users.
  17. J

    In Perils Among False Brethren;

    just look at the likes of Rob bell, or Brian Mclaren, who seek to make Christian relevant in the post modern age by making sure their theologies reflect moving to heresy
  18. J

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    We all agree on the Essentials of the faith
  19. J

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    Calvinism ceased being the primary Baptist theology gradually, becoming less dominant in the mid-1800s as more moderate or Arminian views spread, and then largely declining in popularity within some denominations like the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) through the mid-20th century until a...
  20. J

    I thought Baptists followed scripture

    All conservative Christians would agree that the sacred scriptures themselves are our final and supreme authority in regards to all doctrines and practices
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