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He cannot get the pagan idea of appeasing the wrath of a god out of his mind. Right there is where you deny atonement as defined to us by Jesus and Paul

How can one know for sure that is not biblical is wrong?

truth is that the greek term as used by paul would take the sin of bearing and taking wrath as the way to appease that righteous anger against sin. WSe saw even decades ago some like CH Dodd of NEB fame could not stand that term, so used watered down expiate C. H. Dodd argued that God's wrath is...

A Holy god Must have someone die and atone for their sins have committed, as thesoul that sins must die, no way around that truth

God wrath against sin must be satisfied, for he cannot just say a sinner is now in his sight sinless because God wants to forgive them, or that they repented and asked God to do that, as MUST have a provided basis for Him to now be able to do that and still remain the Holy Judge

We just think that your new understandings are not found in the scriptures, but is a means to circumvent the wrath of God and Jesus death being made to propiate that very wrath of a Holy God

pretty much all Reformed, and a majority of Baptist would hold to it , especially pastors, teachers, and theologians

Jesus and Paul referenced the PST atonement view though to us, Calvin and the reformers did not just "make it up out of air"

You mean like when God plainly stated to us the soul that sins, must be put to death?

So all of the reformers and majority of the Baptists are not really saved? How can you be so sure that we misunderstanding what the bible teaches and yet you understand it correctly? You have insight and understanding exceeding all Reformers and nearly all Baptist scholars and pastors and teachers?

Bowl of wrath was OT prophets term for certain wrath and judge,memt coming in the 'Great Day of the Lord"

Not while he was the sin bearer upon that Cross, as what he feared came to pass, as he felt the isolation of being apart from very presense of God

Leaving aside the question of limited or unlimited atonement, you would affirm that upon the Cross Jesus death was to propiate the wrath of God and divine Judgment due to us for being sinners?

So every reformer and Baptist until you now misunderstood the atonement of Christ then? Saved by Grace alone received thru faith alone would be the Baptist, and more importantly, the bible statement on how to get saved Who and where did you get this understanding, as very few in the past...

If there was no shedding of His blood for atonement of sins, repenting would save none , as there MUST be an objective basis provided in order to have a Holy God able to forgive sins

And which viewpoint would you agree with here the most? https://www.crossway.org/articles/10-theories-of-the-atonement/?srsltid=AfmBOoq-VMszzLwbQo6InFcVSIIaf5uGjeKOJEnEekImTledKI2aaKkN

God never saved any lost sinner due to their repenting, its based upon the Cross of Christ and His atonement provided for them there, period I hold to the reformed and baptist teaching regardi ng the Atonement of Christ, and would say VERY biblical It refers to how a sinner can get saved and...

The one doctrine that had no biblcal support would be annihilation

Have you not already though judged PST as being a pagan concept, and that would not be fair to have Jesus suffer due to our sins, as he committed none? That Jesus died due to the world system, and evil in world, and not due to God the father directly causing that to happen? You keep on...

There will be degrees of judgement in the eternal state