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    The Bible Teaches that Repentance and Faith are Gifts from God.

    I agree with much of what you've said here, and that you give God all the praise and glory for our salvation! Concerning God giving man the choice to be saved, it's obvious from the very beginning of man that God gives that choice. I don't have to repeat all those verses, you've heard them many...
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    The Bible Teaches that Repentance and Faith are Gifts from God.

    I agree that man is totally depraved, as the apostle Paul demonstrated, and Calvin coined. But the apostle Paul also said that faith comes by the hearing of the Word of God. The Gospel message given by you and me to the lost contains the faith to believe, The Holy Spirit produces that faith to...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    The Amillennialists will use John 18:36 to say Christs' Kingdom is not of this world. But they ignore what He actually said in the last line. John 18:36 "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    This is during the Kingdom Age when Christ shall rule the earth. Isaiah spoke of this time when years are extended to man. A man who dies at 100 years old will be considered young, yet a child. This is due to the life-giving waters flowing out of Jerusalem at this time that Zechariah spoke...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    I definitely see Zech. 14:8 as literal. The former sea is the Dead Sea, the hinder sea is the Mediterranean Sea. The living waters impart life-giving properties to man, and in the summer and winter is the continuation of the seasons.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Whether it does or not begin reading in Zech. 13:7. Zechariah takes us from the smiting of the Shepard and the scattering that night to the Battle of Armageddon where Israel is scattered by the anti-christ. It's Scripture explaining Scripture by way of prophecy. It's all connected to the...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Does your Bible have a reference from Mat 26:31 to Zechariah 13:7? I just noticed that mine does. I knew the connection but never noticed the reference.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    I'm referring to Zech. 11:15-17 that you referenced. Wasn't that what you were referring to as 11:17?
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Man is drawn to God by the hearing of the Gospel, it does not mean he will believe. God leaves that a choice to man. As He did with Adam in the very beginning, He also tells us the consequences of not heeding His words.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Actually 11:15-17 is a contrast of Christ and the anti-christ. The anti-christ is the "idol shepherd" with "the sword upon his arm." The context of the book of Zechariah is filled with the actions of the anti-christ.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    @Zaatar71, we are opposites in Scripture. We will disagree on almost all of Biblical doctrine found in Scripture. I think the reason is the difference in our foundational beliefs. The foundation of Christianity is Jesus Christ crucified to set man free from his sin. That foundation is...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    The prophecy is concerning the crucifixion of Christ in unbelief, as a result God took away the temple and scattered them over the world. The disciples fleeing in the night of Christs' arrest is a type of the entirety of Israel being scattered.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    It's after the Second Coming and all of Israel being saved that the content of our original conversation takes place. The Kingdom Age begins (the thousand year reign of Christ) when all the earth will come yearly to Jerusalem and keep the Feast of Tabernacles. All of this from Zechariah are...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    At the Second Coming the anit-christ will be in the process of wiping out Israel. Christ will destroy him and his armies in plain sight of Israel. Zechariah says 2/3 of Israel will die and 1/3 will He bring through the fire. Israel will see with their own eyes that Jesus of Nazareth was and...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Yes, a prophecy fulfilled in 70 ad when Israel was scattered to the 4 winds. Zechariah predicts a regathering of Israel in "the Spirit of Grace." This is when "all Israel shall be saved, as Paul said. They will see the One whom they have pierced, our Lord Jesus Christ. Zech. 12:10 And I...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Zechariah giving prophecy does not mean it's not a literal future event. If you insist on applying spiritual interpretation where there is no evidence of it being so, then go ahead, we will just ignore it. Not trying to be rude, just using common sense. For example, Christ said, "you are...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    In Heb. 12:22-23, the author is speaking of a literal place "heavenly Jerusalem" with and in spiritual applications. It's obvious from Scripture there is an earthly and spiritual Jerusalem, but we must keep it in context with the message. There is no reason whatsoever to apply a "heavenly...
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    I'm a dispensationalist, I believe in the literal interpretation of the Scripture, until it becomes obvious it's not. There is no reason to believe what Zechariah said of Jerusalem to be spiritual.
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    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Zechariah said in context there would be no rain if they didn't come to Jerusalem. I can only see an earthly Jerusalem, unless there is such a thing as rain in heaven?
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