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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    I think you really know that doesn't work. If it were the case, our Lord would have said, "You are not My sheep because you do not believe.
  2. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    He must have done because He saved me. A better translation is, "For this is how God loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.' With this I absolutely agree. Why wouldn't I? It's Scripture. I think he would...
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    Actually, you don't, because if you did you would have seen verse 8: 'That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. But in fact your argument is not with me, but with the Apostle Paul, because he...
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    That is your view but it is not mine. God does not say, "I have loved you with an everlasting love, therefore I have dragged you kicking and screaming;" He says "I have loved you with and everlasting love, therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you." For years I resisted God and His...
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    So what do you do with Romans 9:13-16? Ignore it, or try to explain it away? The remakable thing in Romans 9:13 is that God should have loved Jacob.
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    The Bible teaches that God is kind to the unthankful and evil (Luke 6:35). It teaches that He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust (Matt. 5:45). If you believe that that constitutes love on the part of God, then God most certainly loves...
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    If God required people to fly to the moon in order to be saved, then unless He specially enabled them to do so, no one could be saved If He required people to solve the Binomial Theorum (no idea what that is) in order to be saved, then only special, super-intelligent people could be saved. But...
  8. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    I have been a church leader for 20-odd years and a member of Gideons Int. for 30 years, and I never heard anyone say that. However, IF people are preaching a 'gospel' that tells people that they need to look inside themselves to see if they are elect, then that is just despicable. The Bible...
  9. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    So you, as moderator, staff member (owner?) of the BB should be at pains not to misrepresent Calvinism on this forum. If only!
  10. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    Yes, that is quite right. People have the choice to believe or not, but unless God opens their hearts to believe they will freely exercise their choice not to believe (John 5:40; 6:44; Romans 3:11; 1 Cor. 2:14). When God opens their hearts to do so, they freely believe. Read Titus 2:11-12...
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    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    How can you ask me that after what I posted? Of course I do. I don't think you have the faintest idea of what Calvinism is. The Bible says that whoever will may come. That is what Calvinists believe. But the Bible also says that men and women will always use their free will not to come...
  12. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    I am not sure that's the case, but if it is, it shouldn't be.
  13. M

    Do Calvinists hold a different gospel?

    Every Calvinist (though not every Hyper-Calvinist) believes in free will. It is there in the WCF and the 1689 Confession. Of Free Will — The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith. I expect it is there in most, if not all, the other major Reformed Confessions. So Mr Friel is perfectly within his...
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    That depends on how one interprets 'by nature, children of wrath.' Isaiah 12:1. 'On that day you will say: O LORD, I will praise you; though You were angry with me, Your anger is turned away, and You comfort me."'
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Quite right. I think it may be helpful to think of the prodigal son, although it is dangerous to press the analogy too far. The younger son was 'dead' (Luke 15:32) - presumably in trespasses and sins - but his father still loved him for he was constantly looking out for him (v.20). But he was...
  16. M

    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    I thnk you'll find that there are. I tried to explain so simply that even a half-wit could understand, but obviously not. Sorry!
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Hi @Brightfame52, Ephesians is written to those who are 'saints,' holy and 'faithful' ones (1:1). Paul tells them that they and he were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world (v.4). The word translated 'chosen' is 'eklego' from which comes 'ekloge' which is translated 'election' in...
  18. M

    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Elsewhere as well. Ephesians 2:1-3.
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    This is correct. God's wrath is His righteous anger, and it is satisfied by the propitiation wrought by the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross. God's love is shown by the fact that is was He who set Christ forth as a propitiation by His blood so that He might be just and the justifier of the one...
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    Songs With Doctrinal Errors

    It's never caused me the slightest problem, much less a mutter.
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