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I am now officially admitting to everyone that since JonC thinks that I lied against him when I accused Him of holding to God just excusing our sins, that I am asking Him to forgive me for stating that against him on our many discussions regarding the Psa atonement views here on the Baptist...

Freed by Grace (to Believe) Atonement for All Conditional Election Total Depravity Security in Christ Would be your version of Tulip

Any of you see yourselves as being reformed and also Baptist then?

was the Lord ever have the opportunity to learn something did not knew before?

Is that basis our repenting, change of mind, the Cross, or just what?

And which viewpoint would you agree with here the most? https://www.crossway.org/articles/10-theories-of-the-atonement/?srsltid=AfmBOoq-VMszzLwbQo6InFcVSIIaf5uGjeKOJEnEekImTledKI2aaKkN

Highly recommend this book as a requirement to really understand the Atonement of the Lord Jesus , as he surveys the main views, and why the PST is the best one

many KJVO see textual criticism as being "tool of the devil" to discredit the MV, but yet did not the 1611 translators actually use it?

If you hold to Adam did not have spiritual life before the fall, then what actually changed between him and God, as before knew not was a sinner, nor fear of God?

As the Modern English Version claims to be the Kjv in modern day language?

Some her to see it as if we are all commended to death, but once we ask the Judge to forgive us, he can just pardon us period, but the truth is someone still has to serve and fulfill that death penalty, same way Jesus died in our place and our stead

was it by the predetermined plan and purpose, the very will of God the Father that Jesus would die upon that Cross as our atoner, or was it due to Satan, evil world system, plans of mankind etc?

Happened Sunday, as a retired hightly decorated ex marine drove his pick up thru church front door, opened fire, and killed 4 person, another in critical care, and also burnt down the building, with another 7 presumed to have burnt alive in that fire. Worst aspect was that its a local Mormon...

As had many state over the years that when Paul stated this is His opinion, was jsut that, and not inspired, but the truth would be that Paul meant that the Lord Jesus Himself never was asked/answered that question, noyt that he was giving forth now to us just a good guess or His ntural...

Calvinism alone starts with the assumption tahtw e aere all spiritually dead in Adam, and as such, it is impossible for us to do anything in and by ourselves to merit any kind of salvation

Would there be a theology that Independent Baptists would view as their standard to use then? maybe recent one by Dr John MacArthur?

The 1828 Webster Dictionary will give to you what the Kjv terms and words chosen by the 1611 translators meant in their time, not the current understanding in english, so very valuable to avoid misunderstanding g the bible https://webstersdictionary1828.com/bible See especially the 1000 words...

was he wrong then if yes?

Know that many do uphold must never taste any once saved, but is that a cultural norm more than stated directly in the Bible as strict prohibition?

Would that be acceptable under certain situations or not?