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  1. DaveXR650

    When Understanding the Cross

    Yes. This idea that @JonC seems to like, that being that the atonement as we understand it violates the nature of God being just rather than providing the reason for it's necessity is a perfect illustration of the dangers of private revelation, and exegesis of scripture, without any concern for...
  2. M

    When Understanding the Cross

    Well, we're all in big trouble then! 'As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one!"' It looks like we need a Saviour! But it isn't going to be Jesus. :Frown Unless, of course the Bible is true (Isaiah 53:5-6)! :D
  3. JonC

    Disagreements about the Atonement

    I didn't. I started it with post #5. I actually was trying to discuss a point he and Martin brought up. I did it, but post 1 should have been post 5. No clue how that happened. You are distracting from the actual subject. Where we end up on our view of Atonement depends on where we...
  4. M

    Disagreements about the Atonement

    One of the stranger features of @JonC's theology is that he seems to be clearer on what other people believe than he is about what he himself believes. I don't recall using the word "accountability" in any of my posts but that has not deterred him from claiming that I believe it. However, let's...
  5. JonC

    1JN.2:2...A.W.Pink

    I absolutely agree with thise passages. I d0 not agree with what men have told you those passages "really" mean. The blood Chriat shed for us is more valuable, acvomplished more, than you are willing to admit. It was really completed on the Cross. Man was truly reconciled to God, not just...
  6. Alan Dale Gross

    1JN.2:2...A.W.Pink

    8; Hebrews 10:14; 14 For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified. 1 Peter 1:18–19; 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the...
  7. JonC

    Snuggling With Satan?

    We all need reconciliation as evidenced by those sins.Yes, He was wounded for our transgressions. He bore our sins. By His stripes we are healed. For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him, because of His suffering death crowned with glory and honor, so...
  8. M

    Snuggling With Satan?

    Not “just” for personal sins, but all we needed reconciliation for, absolutely including personal sins. Isaiah 53:5 (KJV) But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 1 Peter...
  9. Z

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Another post broadcasting the truth ogf God, thanks Martin As a person drifts away from the biblical revelation that all must answer to God's Holy law, it is not too farin the future where they will drift and say hell does not exist, because there is no need to punish sin at all! Your posts are...
  10. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    It is, of course, in the text - several times. You just won't accept them which is your problem, not mine. However, see below. And I have asked you what the Bible says and you can't tell me. It is very poor theology to demand a verse that proves something. As I have asked you before, why...
  11. JonC

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This, @DaveXR650 , is what I was talking about. Penal Substitution theorists want to be in agreement with other positions. They use multi-faceted diamond as an example. BUT they have to redefine other positions in order to agree with them. Take Christus Victor that @Martin Marprelate...
  12. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This is exactly right. The Christus Victor theory is correct as far as it goes. Who believes in Christus Loser? But it cannot explain how God can be just in justifying sinners. It is incomplete without the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. So the Biblical position is to agree that Christ did...
  13. M

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    I have no time to write as much as I would wish. If it is @JonC's purpose to avalaunch me with posts, he is succeeding. However, I will quickly respond to this: You mean like, quoting the Bible. Well yes, I do that. Guilty as charged. Surprise, surprise! You mean apart from Romans 3:25-26...
  14. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    OK; so you have the right to determine what I believe, and throw silly insults at me, but I do not have the right to do likewise/ Is that how it works when one debates with a staff member? Is that why @Zaatar71 has been prevented from posting on this thread? If you believe it, you don't...
  15. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    It seems hard for you to understand. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, and the New in Greek, but you have to resort to Latin to try (and fail) to give us the meaning. In fact, propitius is an adjective, not a noun, so in any case it cannot help us to find the meaning of hilasterion...
  16. Z

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    This is a very solid presentation among all who believe and Know the truth. You compare scripture with scripture to refine your understanding which is essential. Those who have turned from truth might suggest this is a theory rather than biblical teaching, it could be they do not understand what...
  17. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Romans 3:24-26. ‘Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just...
  18. C

    Predestination is a Beautiful Doctrine.

    Of course there will be a rebuttal from the opposing belief, that is to be expected. I'm just asking you to research and see the roots of Calvinism, whether you agree or not. We didn't come up with this out of thin air.
  19. Z

    Predestination is a Beautiful Doctrine.

    https://pulpitandpen.org/2016/08/27/7-scriptural-problems-with-jesse-morrels-doctrine/ Jesse Morrell, a Pelagian open air campus preacher, wrote a hit piece against Calvinism just before his recent debate with Matt Slick (see the debate here). His arguments against the truth of Calvinism are...
  20. Dave G

    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    Hypothetically and theoretically, I would agree with you. But there's this little thing that keeps buzzing in my subconscious and based on my studies in His word... There was no negative judgement or penalty ever levied against His elect, neither will there ever be. 1) Since God the Father was...
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