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@Pastor_Bob So you would interpret "called" in this passage as meaning responding? "But unto them which are (responding), both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God." v24 "For ye see your (response), brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many...

You're right, this isn't a "problem text" for those who believe in sovereign grace. I just wonder how others reconcile it with their beliefs? So far, it seems that they agree that the "called" are the "saved". I just don't see how they reconcile verses 26-31 if that's the case though...

"And when Pharaoh saw that the rain and the hail and the thunders were ceased, he sinned yet more, and hardened his heart, he and his servants. And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, neither would he let the children of Israel go; as the Lord had spoken by Moses. And the Lord said unto Moses, Go...

@Reynolds I've gone and read the passage in the ESV, but I'm still curious how it fits in with non-Calvinist doctrine? Specifically: verse 24 says that the gospel is the power of God to those who are "called", and then verses 26-28 say that God is the one who has chosen who is called. If...

This is also true. :Thumbsup Mankind as a whole was condemned (judged) by Adam: Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many...

@Pastor_Bob From your view, is there any difference between "called" and "saved" in this passage?

Men are condemned because they love darkness rather than light: "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3:19 Men condemn (judge) themselves: "Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said...

What do you believe 1 Corinthians 1:17-31 teaches as a whole? What does it mean to be "called" from your perspective? I'm curious about how this is understood from non-Calvinist/sovereign grace points of view. Thanks!

Men ought to believe the gospel in and of itself, but without "an extra measure of grace" no one does. "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom...

I approach the atonement with the foundation that redemption is located "in Christ": "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:" Col 1:14 "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Rom 3:24 "In whom we have...

"The kind of love that God recognizes though, is the love that we display as an extension of love to God." ...I thought that I better add some scripture to back this claim up: "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for...

Brad, You said: "If my nature is such that I have no power to choose both to sin or not to sin and to choose both to love God or not Love God then my nature makes me incapable of both sin and love." According to your "logic" here, we will be incapable of loving God when we reach Heaven. :eek...

I agree with the things that you said in your post, about man's will. We used our will to condemn ourselves, God used His will to save us. You said: "And the glory of God’s grace is that, in spite of all our guilt, and all our wicked loves, and all our hatred of his authority, and all our...

Jesus died to save His people from their willful sins. If left to ourselves, we never would have chosen Him. It's true that the natural man is dead in trespasses and in sin, but God didn't create man that way. Man's will isn't what saves him, it's what condemned him. "And this is the...

Brad12d3, I agree with a lot of what you're saying here, but there's more to it than just this. Consider this verse: "Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God." (1 John 4:7) When you hear someone make a comment along this...

Again, I recommend studying the concepts of natural ability and moral ability.

I agree that all men have an ability to come to Christ. As it's been pointed out, men are willingly ignorant, and without excuse. I think that where we actually disagree though, is why some people do come. The Bible says in John 3:19-21: "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into...

Do a google search on "natural ability and moral ability". You'll find some good information on this topic.

And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. (Acts 13:48)

I guess that I'm just having trouble seeing what point you're trying to make...