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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    They were the Sheep who were redeemed and would become believers.Many whom Christ died for and redeemed will not become believers until a day appointed. Redemption ensures all the Sheep will believe.
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    Who will answer with a yes or no?

    Thats not for fallen mankind, but for the redeemed Sheep
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Cain was a child of the devil, a Vessel of wrath The Two seed doctrine goes back to the beginning of world history Gen 3:15, and cain was a vessel of wrath, a child of the wicked one 1 Jn 3:12 12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    They are appointed to disobey the Gospel ! The Gospel of Christ, His Person and Work for His Chosen People, and all that it entails and effects, what it accomplishes, was not in Gods Eternal Purpose for all to believe or obey, for God had appointed many to disobey it, not believe it 1 Pet 2:8...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Being of the Vessels of Wrath, them whom God purposely created to fit them for destruction, its the reasonable and necessary consequence of God having elected/chosen some people in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4, to be Vessels of Mercy. God did predetermine before the...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Yes God Gets Glory for Showing Mercy on some men who are sinners Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Rom 15 9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Gods reprobation of men, was deliberate and its active unto the vessels of wrath Rom 9:20-22 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    You lost me. Its very simple, God created some people for the purpose of His wrath and destruction for their sins, and then God created some people for the purpose of His Mercy and Glory for their sins. and all for His Glory.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    The condemnation they were ordained to in Jude 1:4 is described in Vs 13 Jude 1:13 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. Now some may object to the meaning of the word ordained in Jude 1:4, because the...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    You continue to lose me. There is no opportunity for the vessels of wrath to become the vessels of mercy.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    So then you should see two seperate groups of people identified, the vessels of mercy and then the vessels of wrath, God is the maker of them both.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Thats fine, but i think we should read a post and comment as to what it says instead of what it doesnt say, if we are going to comment at all on it.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Another scripture that teaches some men were ordained, predestinated to condemnation is Jude 1:4 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Scripture plainly sets forth two groups of people made by God, #1 Vessels of wrath and #2 Vessels of Mercy Rom 9:20-23 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the...
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Okay I dont believe i can say it any plainer, but i didnt post what you said I posted, just keep reading it, it will come to you. I have to do that a lot when I read others.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    Yes but never vessels of wrath being fitted for destruction. The elect even by nature, have a wrath worthy nature like the rest of mankind, deserving of wrath, nevertheless they were always vessels of mercy.
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    God made them the vessels of wrath !

    @JonC You lost me again, i dont recall posting anything like that. Maybe you need to read it again
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