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You are looking at the passage through the lens of modern culture, assuming she had gone through 5 marriage ceremonies and 5 divorces (not mentioned). IMO, Jesus was looking at her through the biblical standard established in the Garden and confirmed by Paul (the “one flesh” standard) The...

In the NT times, the Jewish folks had developed a ceremonial system for marriage: usually an endowment, a period of engagement (already considered married according to the Law… I e Joseph and Mary), a celebration party and so forth. Many were arraigned marriages where the couple didn’t know...

Agreed. Let’s base what we believe on scripture. I still haven’t seen any passages where we are commanded to have “proper ceremony” to have a “proper marriage”. I see no passages of scripture where men are given the authority by God to declare a couple “husband and wife”. If a couple come...

The OT saints were saved the same way we are, by God’s grace and faith in His Messiah. I know you are incapable of understanding this truth, being blinded by secular philosophy as you are. You deny God’s Word and His power when you claim God must use many means to bring people to salvation...

Read his posts carefully. He says the gospel is one of many means by which God saves people. Glad you don’t believe it, too. Peace to you

Still no scripture commanding a “proper marriage” and a “proper ceremony”. Adam and Eve had no ceremony. Adam “knew” his wife and they were one flesh Repeatedly, throughout the OT, that is the standard. Issac is brought a woman, they “know” each other, they are husband and wife. No ceremony to...

Not directed to me, but I’ll answer if you don’t mind. No. The secular standards of government do not validate or invalidate a marriage. Let me ask you this. If a man remains married, but is a serial cheater, the marriage remains valid in the eyes of the state unless there is a divorce. Do...

Well, that’s a good question. I don’t have a problem with the letter as showing common faith and practice in good standing Our church has a new members class prior to joining that goes over our beliefs. I think these fall under Paul’s instructions of doing everything in orderly way and...

Please provide all the scripture to support the idea of a couple being “properly married” with a “proper ceremony”. I’ll save you time, there is none. Why are we even asking for proof of marriage? If they say they are married, where in scripture does it say the church must verify the...

72 or 36 Do you add or multiply first? Peace to you

The Apostle Paul stated if you lay with a prostitute you become “one flesh” with her. That is, of course, straight from the first marriage of Adam and Eve. That is God’s standard. A man and a woman has an intimate relationship, they are mated for life: one flesh. Everyone complaining about...

Let’s focus on the question of the OP. Should a church recognize a common law marriage as valid for membership. I want to base everything I believe on what scripture says. Scripture doesn’t say you need a marriage license. It doesn’t say you need approval from the local holy man in a church...

John 8:58, Jesus takes the name “Yahweh” and applies it to Himself… “before Abraham was.. I AM” You are just wrong. Peace to you

All the rules put in place by men are simply for control, first by the Catholic Church and then by governments. Peace to you

Please show me from scripture where God says have a ceremony at a church and let a man pronounce you man and wife? I’ll save you time, it isn’t there. The testimony of scripture is a man and woman agree to be husband and wife and they are. That is not fornication. Peace to you

@MrW, do you agree with SH that many are saved without hearing the gospel? Do you agree with him the gospel is not necessary for salvation? If you do, that is all I need to know about your opinion of God’s Word. Peace to you

They think the doctrines of grace are clearly taught in scripture and they are correct. Peace to you

“Various means” is unbiblical. There is only one “means” of salvation. 1 Corinthians is very clear. Since man did not come to know God through their own wisdom, God was well pleased through the foolishness of the message preached (Jesus Christ and Him crucified) to save those who believe...

The issue isn’t race. The issue is ideology. If the majority of white people embrace the radical leftist ideology that is a far greater threat to the country than “non- Hispanic whites” whatever that means Peace to you

Newsom cannot appeal to anyone outside of the radically liberal cities. He doesn’t stand a chance in Pres election. I’m thinking the Dems are going to find someone new, without much of a record, they can mold public opinion as if they are “moderate” We will see Peace to you