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    Did Jesus preach to spirits in Paradise?

    but 1 Peter 4 6 say He preached to the dead?
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    Did Jesus preach to spirits in Paradise?

    1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 1Pe 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    We both agree the original languages, the original thoughts are inspired. Translations are not inspired. We do not know if discrepancies between OT and NT quotes are just language differences with original thoughts or a loose reference to a well known verse not trying to be a quote. To...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    The quotes that are translated, and or non quote references from the OT that all would have been familiar with the verses have to be considered originally inspired. Translations, being repeated as inspired verses have to be questioned if the meanings are changed. Example, in Spanish I was...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Then why require the message above Jesus to be written in three languages if all could understand one in common? Josephus disagrees with you on learning koine Greek ....on which account, as there have been many who have done their endeavors with great patience to obtain this learning, there...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    They were used by the different groups, all groups did not use all languages
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    It was koine Greek, the common man's Greek, The Hebrew ego did not promote other languages. Same as today many Jews do not consider your opinion spiritually as worthwhile if you re not a Jew
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Josephus wrote: "I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understand the elements of the Greek language, although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness; for our nation does not...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    others were present as well, who were more likely to react to the condemned Mar 15:35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    i agree but the Aramaic Alahi! could be thought to be Elias
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    I think He might have used Greek to the masses but we know His ministry was first to Israel, I think it was Aramaic socially but Hebrew for religious talks.
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    It was not the listener's normal language, thus the confusion and translation. He spoke one language, Hebrew, of quote Psalms 22 or an Aramaic version. 34 And in the athsha shaiyn {the ninth hour}, Eshu {Yeshua} cried out in a qala rama {a loud voice}, and said, Iyl! Iyl! lamana...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    English itself is variable on word meanings . Lax Renderings, are less evident in Greek as co pared to Hebrew, just the differences in languages. The Greek translation of a Hebrew quote cannot pose a different meaning than the original, or it is not a quote. The inspiration must continue ...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Yes, it was preserved in Greek, Then translated to English. Hebrew to Greek to English. They can be different,,,both are Inspired? Translations are not inspired
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    I think your position is why there is SDA's, JW's , Mormons and each man made denomination exist The lax renderings allows mans opinions to be used. To be accurate, to insure consistency, is exactly why a Young's Literal Translation is necessary "Rightly dividing the Word of Truth" is...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Jesus spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. He probably knew Greek as well but He would not have quoted Hebrew scriptures in Greek to Hebrew scholars who knew Hebrew scriptures very well Please show m a verse that was Greek spoken by Jesus
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Your examples are some that do not matter but words , especially from different languages do have different meanings. Lord from a monotheistic culture is quite different than God is a polytheistic culture as Greek Accuracy is most important. During Paul's conversion, one says Jesus spoke...
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    The Hebrew quote being said in Greek is fine to stay in as a Greek Translation, Jesus did not speak Greek. If He spoke Hebrew, or Aramaic . why include Greek if the original quotes are known? To your point, is it an discrepancy if a quote from the OT does not match the NT?
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    New Testament Quotations of the Old Testament

    Why would the Holy Spirit lead a writer to misquote a known verse?
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