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If once saved - can again be lost? It's not about "losing" anything. It's about your ever-present free will choice and hence your ever-present option to turn aside. "Eternal Security" is also known as "once saved always saved," or "perseverance of the saints." In other words, once someone...

Yes I know you are stonewalling Van. When you finally deal with the words in Luke 8:13-14 rather than ignoring them then perhaps you will see what the Holy Spirit said. You hold to your OSAS view but have yet to provide any clear text that supports it. Reading into the text what you want to...

Van you continue to make illogical comments. You have yet to address Luke 8:13-14 the two soils. All I get from you is your opinion. Your OSAS view is clouding your thinking. You are ignoring the words of God and adding your own words to the text. Since when did you become the arbiter of...

On and on, denial after denial. Is the issue whether Soil #2 believed? Nope, but this poster makes the false claim. The issue is belief does not automatically result in salvation. Demons believe. But the love of God does not control them. What does john 3:15 say? It says everyone who...

If their belief was not credited for righteousness what did they fall away from?

But that is not what Luke 8:13 says Van. You are adding your own personal views to the text. So we will leave it at that.

That is what I said. Here is my quote: Soil #2, Luke 8:13 believed superficially but that belief was NOT credited as righteousness, and therefore was NOT transferred into Christ, was NOT born anew, and Jesus never knew him.

I get the feeling that we are talking past each other here, so I will offer "no comment" and just let that point die. I assume you mean in the commentary on the soils, (in which case I agree and thought I was making that clear) rather than post #93 (which offers far more than just my opinion)...

Now that is just pure speculation on your part Van. The text is clear in Luke 8:13 soil#2 believed. Do you have a different meaning for the word. The same Greek word G4100 is used in Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become...

Yes I read your post #93 and dealt with it in post #94 What you have given is your opinion @atpollard. You say that Luke 8:13-14 soils were not really saved and I say they were as that is what scripture shows us. For you to deny their salvation is to give another meaning to the word believe...

It seems to me that I read they believed for a while and fell away. Did I read that wrong?

Soil #2, Luke 8:13 believed superficially but that belief was NOT credited as righteousness, and therefore was NOT transferred into Christ, was NOT born anew, and Jesus never knew him. To repeat, believing in Christ does NOT automatically save a person. See Matthew 7 and consider those that...

Van, what do you make of what Christ said in Luke 8:13? "They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away."

1) There is absolutely no evidence Soils 2 ans 3 of Matthew 13 were saved. 2) You claim when a person professes belief, God "must" save them, thus automatic. 3) Abraham's faith was credited as righteousness, Abraham was not credited as righteousness 4) Yes, Soil #2 did "believe"...

“Saved” appears to involve an element of “endures to he end” that all but the “good soil” lacked. "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.” - Matthew 10:22 "But he who endures to the end shall be saved.” - Matthew 24:13 [NKJV] "And you will...

The compelling evidence is that the soils # 2 & 3 were saved. You have not given anything to counter what I have said except your opinion. What do we see in Romans 4 Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? "ABRAHAM BELIEVED G4100 GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS." What do...

Sorry Sir, but you are just posting nonsense. Just because someone believes superficially, or does not believe He is their Lord, does not automatically save the person. Pushing automatic salvation that can be lost is a long way from the biblical gospel.

Does your bible not have the words "They believe G4100 for a season" in it. That is soil #2 G4100 b. in a moral or religious reference 1. used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul 2. to trust in Jesus...

I think we can find this type of belief in many of those that have come forward at crusades or grown up in a "Christian" home. They have an emotional faith an intelectual faith. Note it lasts for a season but that season can be a long or short time. They have not developed a deep trust in God...

Greetings Silverhair. Grace and Love in our Lord Jesus Christ. I would like to start by saying I haven't read much of what others are saying to you, and only some of your comments. So you might treat this post to you as a standalone that doesn't know the points that have been made previously...