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Back around the first five pages of this thread, you made a case for Hades being "down." Now you're making a case for Hades being "up." Which is it? Further, you already have a conclusion in mind with your questions. I personally find it irritating that you're asking questions like you're...

Is collecting all phone records of all Americans a "reasonable search and seizure"? If you say no, then you have to ask if such collection violates the 4th amendment. If you say yes, then you invalidate Supreme Court rulings that supplement the 4th Amendment regarding "probable cause," or...

Let us not forget what the "creator" of the Patriot Act has recently said about NSA monitoring of cell phones: It's not what he intended for the Act to do. Why should we think any law, when vague and open to wide interpretation, *especially* including the NDAA, would not be subject to similar...

Now, now; don't over-do it.... :laugh:

Will do! :thumbsup:

And that's the thing: you were asked a direct question, related to the topic; and you refuse to answer, which gives the appearance that you don't want to answer, which causes a question of why, which leads to a conclusion that you'd be answering in the affirmative--that it's okay to lie and deceive.

NO, he hasn't. YOU asked for credible sources; he gave them to you. This is where Poncho comes in with that infamous line: "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!" Because, as you made clear in another thread, you believe truth is subjective; thus, you can believe only those things...

That's one of the questions I've been trying to figure out, but can't seem to find an answer to. If he had, how would that affect the situation in your mind?

And here's a different take on the same subject: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338095/Valedictorians-mic-cut-impromptu-speech-value-constitution.html

You wouldn't answer the question; and you wouldn't acknowledge the question. What else should we call it? What answer? You never answered the question, so how can you say anything affected your answer?

Sorry, Salty; missed that somehow. I don't see this as analogous to Rosa Parks. She wasn't asked to sit in the back of the bus; agreed to do so; then changed her mind and sat in the front. I also don't have a problem with what the young man said; as I mentioned somewhere, it needed to be...

I already said thanks for answering. Your tacit refusal to answer a direct question, directly related to the topic of this thread, speaks volumes. If you don't want people making assumptions, than you should try answering the questions.

Was the young man ever actually told he was forbidden to speak in Jesus' name? There was no invocation; but the young man was up there to give the valedictorian speech, not the invocation. What he said was correct, true, and needed to be said; but he had previously told his school leadership...

So you condone his deceit, and therefore, by extension, encourage others to do so as well. Thanks for answering.

Don't recall seeing an answer to my previous question: was it okay for this kid to deceive the school authorities? Is it okay for us to lie and deceive in order to spread the gospel?

Does Hebrews mention her lying? Or Moses and/or David committing murder?

That by faith she didn't perish with the unbelievers, having received the spies in peace.

Drat. I was really hoping to see whether she'd apologize to the people she spoke against regarding the whole math thing....

I did; and you can research the archives here on BB and find threads where I posted against it.

He had a pre-approved speech; he pre-planned not to use it. There's no indication that he let school officials know what he was going to do.