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That is the difference between you and me Bob because I actually do believe that God is sovereign and trust Him to put the right people in the right place at the right time to move His plan along. Actually since you are a calvinist I am surprised that you disagree with women pastors. Those...

I do not use the OT to prove the fact that we are saved by His life BF. Paul has stated that clearly in verses that you have even posted and yet you deny this biblical truth. 1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Rom 5:10 For if, when...

How is quoting scripture evasion BF? That fact I do not agree with your calvinism is not denial of the truth of scripture. I will leave that for you to do.

You continue to disagree with the bible BF. You are in denial.

So if we are saved by His death then why 1] preach as the people are already saved 2] ask people to believe as they are already saved 3] everyone is saved as He died to save the world

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Well if we go by your theory BF then since Christ's death saves then everyone is saved. Heb 10:10 By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. To quote you "We are perfected forever, that is, perfectly freed from the punishment of sin...

You have made quite a bold claim BF do you have the scripture to back it up? I doubt that you do as you make a number of claims but when asked for biblical support you dodge and weave as you do not have any such text. What I am understanding BF is that you refuse to provide any biblical...

So you have them saved B4 they believe. Care to provide a clear verse to support that view BF.

So you must be a universalist then BF. You have everyone saved as Christ died for every ones sins just as the bible clearly says. Who among humanity is lift out of this list for whom Christ died? What part of humanity is not included? HE DIED FOR Mat_9:13; Luk_5:32 died for sinners 1Ti_2:6...

Those that freely believe are the ones delivered from this present evil age. But what you still will not accept is that the bible tells us clearly that Christ died for the whole world, even those that in the end would not trust in Him so as to be saved. That is the error of your false religion...

Reconciled does not mean saved BF. By your logic the verse should have been written: 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being saved, we shall be saved by his life. Rom 5:10 For ifG1487 while we were enemiesG2190 we were reconciled...

BF you are really confused. In post #166 you say we are saved by His death, which is wrong then in post # 167 you say we are saved by His life, which is correct. I have listed a number of verses that tell us who Christ died for and you still do not grasp the fact that He died for the whole...

It is obvious that you are just going to ignore what the word of God says so that you can hold to the man-made religion you have. The truth is right there for you to see but you continue to deny it.

BF you are ignoring what the word of God tells us as to whom Christ died for. Your view is promoting universalism.

I used google translate and we find libro = book ligno = wood lignum = wood So it seems that NET+ is correct. There could have been the error introduced going from Greek to Latin and then back.

How is telling the truth about our salvation Christ dishonoring BF? The fact you ignore that we are saved through faith in the risen Christ would fit the bill BF. Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled...

BF He was our propitiation the appeasing sacrifice, the atoning sacrifice. Atonement is not taking away the sins BF it is covering those sins. We see the work of Christ clearly foreshadowed in the OT by the atoning sacrifices. Here for the nation of Israel Exo_32:30 Now it came to pass on the...

But BF you continue to ignore that Christ died for everyone not just a select group or even for only those that would eventually trust in Him. So by your stated view all of humanity will be saved and the is universalism. For Whom Did Christ Die? HE DIED FOR Mat_9:13; Luk_5:32 died for...

David as I said in my post I am curious why those that hold to the view that God determines all things have such a problem with God, possibly, determining that women be pastor/teachers. If God has called a women to that position who are we to question His doing so? From my reading of the text...