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Why? How is an electric guitar any more conformed to the world than an acoustic guitar? All of my acoustic guitars have built in transducers for amplification so does this make my acoustic guitars "conformed" to the world? By what criteria do you determine what is acceptable and what is not? By...

I believe that Paul was speaking mainly to the reality of his own ministry but this is also played out historically. Just because the Jews (or anyone else) have rejected the message of the gospel doesn't mean they will continue to reject the message. We should not presume one's reprobation any...

Which instruments? Old or New Testament? (for any Church of Christ "Water Dogs" who may happen to be lurking). Are guitars scriptural? What about electric guitars? Can the electric guitars be all "pointy" (Flying V, Explorer, Ibanez, Jackson, ESP...) or do they have to be more traditional like a...

They are around and are becoming as "Traditionalist" about their drums and state of the art sound systems as the traditionalists were about their piano, organ, and hymnals. I believe we should acknowledge and remember that which preceded us. We should break out the hymnals at times and "raise...

I'm not entirely sure I get the point you are trying to make here.

Agreed but we are not speaking of the elect nor can we speak of certainty regarding who the elect are. The only person you can know is elect with 100% certainty is yourself and even then, you are commanded to make your calling and election sure! Neither of us have the slightest clue what God is...

I don't think I said ALL KINDS nor would I agree with such a statement. Bible evidence? You go first: what scriptural support can you provide for the use of ANY sort of instrumental music?

I couldn't stay there either! eight pages on music and hardly one that covers doctrine? Who cares what a pastor's preferences are? If he wants to make a scriptural argument regarding the direction their church is taking, this is one thing but there are so many more things aside from music.

I don't mean to knock you here or disparage your church but I would say that churches having separate "Contemporary" and "Traditional" services are effectively two separate congregations and it is silly that the two congregations are split over music preferences! If I were to talk to your church...

The phrase is "To the Jew first and also to the Greek" (Rom 1:16) almost as if Paul was speaking sarcastically that they were an "afterthought" but were they? Are you now going to become a practical "dispy" here and "dice and slice" the passage? Paul's point was that in every city, he first...

I believe I gave the Dispensationalist position (or at least as I understand it) but I would say it basically means what it says; That which God set out to do with the Gentiles when he graffed the wild branches into the Olive Tree (Rom 11:7-25). And I would say that such thinking is definitely...

And I would completely agree with such a succinct definition. I dislike making any sort of music as being synonymous with "worship." If you want to stick primarily with "Ascetic X's definition, then of course but I entitled the thread as "Worship Wars" because this phrase is commonly used as...

I haven't the slightest clue personally or perhaps I just do not care to speculate? I know the Dispensationalists draw a more definite line - that according to them, one day God will be done with the Gentiles and will once again turn his attention to the Jews and classical dispensationalists...

Was this even a priority to the diaspora Jews? If so, why were so many content to remain where they were after Cyrus made his decree and Jews were free to remain to their homeland? Israel is a nation in this modern age but many Jews have no intention whatsoever in emigrating back to Israel to...

The blindness is partial until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Seems to me it would be both.

I am not certain as to the context of these remarks, did you mean to put this in the "Worship Wars" thread I started? No disagreement from me here! Some get really nutty in regards to certain "music standards" or whatever and will often neglect certain things that truly matter. Some would...

I believe that Romans 2:29 makes it clear: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Also, Gal 3:7 - Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of...

I wouldn't resort to such drastic measures. I wish Jon (and the rest of the BB staff here) would realize you can either be a debator or a moderator. You cannot be both simultaneously. And let me make this clear; no one can! I would therefore ask that when a moderator involves themselves in a...

I wouldn't blame the snot-nosed 20-something but the church leadership that put him in such a position to begin with!

But it certainly was the focus among certain "Fundamental Baptists" I was running back in the 80s and 90s! Drums and syncopated beats were bad, bad, bad and was used to conjure up demons! Remember this? I guess I went to the other "extreme" for a while but now have come around full circle...