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Jon, you have said "Penal substitution is a corruption of the Gospel of Jesus Christ." You have stated that "Penal substitution has the potential to damn a soul." Be careful. Your inconsistency is showing.

You are probably right.

Psalm 8:, verses 4 through 6 is speaking of humanity --not Jesus. Hebrews 2:6-8 is speaking of the same thing --mortals.

Well, a lot of other versions use it. Remember the KJV is a version ---one of many versions. Some, certainly not all, which have the word wicked in Psalm 1:1 follow : CSB, CEB, EHV, ISV, LSB, LEB, NABRE, NASB, NJB, NET, NIV, NLT, NRSV, WEB, REB, Berkeley, R.K. Harrison.

I think the tally would be a few all right. A few hundred.

I agree with all of the above, and it is in accordance with the ideas of the CBT. The NIV translators used the results of the Collins Report to establish guidelines regarding inclusive and non-inclusive language,

Regarding Psalm 1, I haven't heard that it is considered Messaniac. In verse 4, it speaks of the wicked, which refers to many, not a singular person.In the following translations the word they occurs : NLT, NET, ISV, EHV, CEB, CSB and NIV. There may be more versions doing the same thing. The...

The ESV is not known for its inclusive language. However, it does use a fair amount. I will offer some snips of verses in which this is the case, and some not the case. My listing is not exhaustive.These are all from the book of Romans. His praise is not from man but from God. (2:29) Let God...

And just like that (a snap of the fingers) it now works. I didn't do anything special. It happened a minute ago. Back to normal. I love a working search engine.

Well, there are more pressing concerns in the world. So be it.

Well, this is puzzling. I have been using Wikipedia for two dozen years and yet I still can't do a search since earlier in the morn. I don't know what the problem is.

I only have a laptop.

Upon reflection you will confess that you have been a wee bit excessive and wrong.

Gender accurate.

I have used Wikipedia a lot over the years. But now we can't do a search without logging in. Just yesterday I used it for a search and there was no problem. I'm not comfortable with logging into that thing. I'm aware of the problems associated with Wikipedia. It has a decided slant toward...

Well, that was awkward.

Ezekiel was called himself son of man 90 times --never as 'the' the son of man. A number of places in Psalms that term son of man is used to refer to humanity --Psalm 8:4-6 in a number of older translations, but not in most newer versions because it refers to humanity --not Christ who is The...

I do not think that rendering is necessary when actually referring to a human being or people in general. For instance, the ESV has the following wording in Isaiah 56:2 a : "Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who holds it fast...." Many translation use the same kind of...

I hate the term humankind. It's an ugly-sounding word. UGH. The words humanity or people are better. So how many times do various translations use the word humankind? The winner is the LEB, which employs the word 123 times. NRSV : 44 NET : 33 NABRE : 17 CEB : 11 NCB : 6 CSB : 1 The NIV...

Helen was released from the hospital. The dog was put down by the state on the 8th. They've had custody of the dog since the incident. Helen had her stiches removed the other day. She has psychological scars from the encounter as well as physical wounds. Helen has been put on short-term...