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I've addressed this statement by Price before. as I remember on two occasions. You're determined to follow, and so be it. Charlie24 can't fix this, and I'll not address any more of your Calvinist beliefs.

I know you're a good person, Ken, but that is some messed up theology you're following right there! A total misunderstanding of God's sovereignty. What a mess it is!

Go back to the previous verse where John says, "even to those who believe on His name." Then John says, "Which were born, not of blood." They who believed could not become God's own by a natural birth. "Nor the will of the flesh" man cannot be saved by the works of the flesh. "Nor the will...

No they're not! There is a condition to met to benefit from the atonement of Christ. Man must choose to do this, Rom. 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the...

So God created Adam, determined him to sin and be separated from God. Throwing all of humanity into a curse. Are you sure you understand what the sovereignty of God entails.?

No, you are not following, Ken. There are dozens of Scripture verses that must be ignored for your theory to be true. Have you ever read John 3:16? The Calvinist Handbook has perverted the definition of "world" in that verse to keep their theory alive.

If God chooses who will be saved, what was the purpose of the atonement in that as John said, He is the satisfaction for the sins of the whole world? How can He be that satisfaction for "all" sin if God selects man and leaves the rest in their sin to perish?

I created a thread on that verse the other day and it refers to salvation. That's not what this conversation is about, we are talking about false doctrine but not the kind that leads to death (separation from God).

OK, this is not Burger King, but you can have it your way. That's the way God designed it.

No, it's based on the ramblings of those old dead men you keep quoting. The text doesn't have to say "men" it is clear the context of "all" is referring to men.

What I have proven is in " I will draw "all" men unto me" the context reveals "all men everywhere" there is no context of limitation.

The "all" in the English language is "Always" determined by the context in which it is used. The context of your verse reveals that, it's common sense.

How is it possible they can't understand this? Not actually asking the question, I'm pretty sure we know.

I've never had to face what you are experiencing. I don't have the words. I'm truly sorry for your suffering and loss.

You can pick any verse in Scripture and apply a focus of your choosing, regardless of it's intended meaning.

Irresistible Grace is a theory formed by man. You need to read the context of Rom. 9 to understand what it actually means. I have already explained that somewhere recently. It seems I do a lot of repeating myself, over and over and over....

I've used the KJV all of my life, never using another version. I agree there is safety in believing the words of the KJV Bible.

That statement will get you saved and the reason I know the Calvinists are saved. But just as Adam chose to disobey God through free will, I also have the same free will to choose my destiny, with or without God.

Wrong again! Our FAITH in Jesus Christ alone is the condition to salvation.

You can ignore and you have to ignore the "whosoever will's" found throughout Scripture to believe your theory.