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  1. Tenchi

    "All"

    As I understand it, compatibilism is just hard determinism pushed back a step. On compatibilism, people are free to choose according to their wants/desires but those desires are ultimately ordained by God, are they not? So, if our "wanters" are programmed by God, we are ultimately acting...
  2. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    This is the sort of response propagandists hope for in those they've caught up in their propaganda. Don't be content to satisfy their hopes. Open your eyes to all that Scripture says about human nature and God; refuse to wear the myopia-inducing Calvinist lens through which you're presently...
  3. Tenchi

    "All"

    Hebrews 3:7-15 7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, “Today, if you hear his voice, 8 do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness, 9 where your fathers put me to the test and saw my works for forty years. 10 Therefore I was provoked with that...
  4. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    Well, if you want to remain willfully blind to the full scope of Scripture so that you can maintain your erroneous beliefs, so be it. It's not my responsibility to convince you of the truth, only to declare and defend it. As Job, Noah, Enoch, Daniel, David, Cornelius and others show, Romans 3:11...
  5. Tenchi

    "All"

    Hebrews 3:12-15 12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have...
  6. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    Ultimately, yes, they were saved by the Atonement, just as you and I are. But they were not so until the Atonement had taken place, for the reasons I've already pointed out to you.
  7. Tenchi

    "All"

    This is all obfuscation, an attempt by way of many words, to obscure the fact that you have no actual solid rebuttal to the presence of the conditional term "if" in Hebrews 3:7 that clearly implies that the hearer has a choice to make - and thus responsibility for that choice. Hebrews 3:7-10...
  8. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    This is a distinction without a difference, if the spiritual regeneration of a lost person remains ultimately coercive. If a man is made to rob a bank because, if he doesn't, his wife will be murdered, is he any less coerced to enact the robbery than if he had been physically forced at gunpoint...
  9. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    As I've noted before, simply asserting something doesn't, by itself, establish the assertion. You can assert I'm deceived, but this assertion alone doesn't prove itself. In other words, your assertion is just an opinion, so long as it stands without well-supported and reasoned argument. What I...
  10. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    Well, you'll have to do more than assert that this is so. An assertion, by itself, does not establish itself; it's just an assertion.
  11. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    Well, I gave you a number of examples of men who were given high praise by God in the Bible who were not spiritually-regenerate. Here they are again: Job, Noah, Daniel, Enoch, David, Cornelius. None of these men were "born-again" in the post-Calvary sense and yet they are described as "good,"...
  12. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    Yes, I think God's power to persuade is, at times, forceful enough to feel almost compulsive. Consider Paul's meeting with Christ on the road to Damascus. Christ could have just wrested Paul's mind and will to his service, without any interaction between them forcing Paul to do what he wanted...
  13. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    But it is entirely an assumption on your part, made in service to your Calvinist doctrines, that the servants, by physical violence, forced those out in the highways and hedges to attend their Master's meal. Why should the uninvited be compelled to attend the meal when the invited were free to...
  14. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    We have many examples in the Bible of spiritually-unregenerate men who moved toward God in reverence, faith, and obedience. The idea, then, that all human beings are, in their ability to respond positively to God, in a corpse-like condition is plainly false. Job, Noah, Daniel, Enoch, David, and...
  15. Tenchi

    The Holy Spirit and Salvation !

    So, then, @ Brightfame52, how does the fully sanctified position of the believer spiritually in Christ become, more and more, a fact in their daily condition, in the manner of their every day living? How, exactly, is the Christian caught in an addiction to, say, food, or porn, or gambling...
  16. Tenchi

    The Fight Against Free-Will Works Religion

    What's your purpose in posting, Van? Have you ever spiritually edified your Christian brethren, or been edified yourself in these exchanges you have on BB? Do you believe your posts are persuasive? I guess you must, if you continue to post. But there are at least three "witnesses" now -...
  17. Tenchi

    How the Holy Spirit Speaks & How He Will Not Speak

    John 16:7-15 7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 8 "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; 9 concerning sin...
  18. Tenchi

    Are there any prophets and Apostles in the Church today then?

    Check out Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec's work on the N.A.R. movement.: www.hollypivec.com "Counterfeit Kingdom: The Danger of New Revelation, New Prophets and New Age Practices in the Church." by Holly Pivec/Doug Geivett. "A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide...
  19. Tenchi

    "All"

    If you must begin with ad hominem, you've already lost the argument. This is a big non sequitur. It doesn't follow that because "world" may be constrained in its scope by context, that this is necessarily the case in John 3:16. All that has been shown above is the former, not the latter. It is...
  20. Tenchi

    "All"

    And some ad hominem and Strawmanning. Both fallacious tactics of argument. No, this is a glaring non sequitur, and Question Begging. Yes, Christ is the Mediator for all the world for whom he died - his work at Calvary was entirely sufficient to atone for sin "once for all" - but this by no...
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