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Yes Preach, I am reading them. Please give me time to study....trying to figure this out. :confused: Lat, what you are saying sounds reasonable, but, you did say that it is implied. For Jesus to be our substitution does he have to be "just" like us, or a close representation? Did Jesus...

Thanks Lat for the references. I appreciate the explanation, but where specifically does the Bible say this? Where can I read that Jesus had to be "fully human", to be a "bridge"?

Thanks Preach! Are we(humans), one being, made up of body, soul and spirit?

Preach, So I can be a Berean, could you provide the scripture you base that on?

Preach, I don't understand why it has to be this way. I am being completely honest, when I said that I see the merits of both, and right now I am on the fence, so to speak. So edify a brother...but, if you wish not to participate, I understand.

Thanks Ransom! Anyone that responds, please provide scripture for me to reference. Thanks. 1. Was Jesus 100% man? 2. Was Jesus 100% God?

I must admit, I can see merit in the arguments, on both sides of this issue. I'll also admit, that I was taught that Christ blood was divine, and never really had any scripture jump out, and convict me otherwise. But, like I said, I can see merit on both sides. If it is alright with y'all, I'd...

The Pharisees certainly studied and knew the prophecies but totally misunderstood what their Messiah was to be like and rejected Him. Excellent point, Scott! What matters is to be ready when it happens! [ September 13, 2002, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: SBG ]

Yes. It does clear things some. We probably aren't as far apart as we originally thought. Thanks Bro.

Siegfied, I want to say this in such a way as not to offend. I didn't respond to your post, because, honestly I didn't see where the scripture you provided had any relevance to the discussion. I agree, that man has named that the pastoral epistles, and they are a generalization of preaching...

We have two weekly times that we have organized soul-winning at the church. We are paired into groups of two and sent out to do "cold turkey" door knocking. The idea is to invite folks to church and as the Holy Spirit leads, share the gospel. We are not there to "cram it down their throats." We...

I agree that a person can be saved through an edification message...but if edification was the MAIN THEME, then Christ would not have had to gone to calvary. PREACH THE CROSS....IT EDIFIES!

PreachtheWord, I publicly accused you yesterday of censoring one of my post. I found out later, that someone else had deleted part of my post. So, I wanted to pulicly apologize. It was irresposible of me to jump to that conclusion. And I am sorry.

Well, like they say...we'll just have to agree to disagree. I believe we are here to win the lost. We are to "earnestly contend for the faith, which was once delivered unto the saints". That "faith" was Jesus Christ, and him crucified. The Biblical model for preaching can be found in Acts...

Yes!!!! My point exactly! Like I said, I have visited several churches in the past month, and only one did both! Thanks PTW!

His job is to equip the saints so they can do the evangelizing. Yes. But what if they do neither?

I can think of lots of other things he is commanded to preach. Can you please provide the scriptures, telling us what we are commanded to preach?

Preach, regardless how many coats of paint you put on an outhouse, it's still an outhouse. As much as you try to rationalize it or justify it, it is still wrong, and you should realize that. (referring to your out messages)And the fact that you can censor post, while injecting your own little...

Don't try to make this into an attack on my church. Thanks for answering the question.

Preach I'm not near as smart as you. I don't get your point....People that happen into our churches, will be converted, by watching how we act in church? That is a novel approach! [Unnecessary personal attack deleted] [ September 11, 2002, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Pastor Bob 63 ]