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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Several purposes. I assume you have read the thread from the beginning, so you may have picked up on some of the reasons [also another thread in the archives]. We read the Bible but most of these completely escape our attention. Why? Are our translations partly to blame? Here are just some...
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    Dates of the Gospels.

    Just voted (*none of these). It is very difficult for me to think that any of the four Gospels could have been written after 70 AD and have no mention, no reference, or clue in some way of the destruction of the Temple. It is widely thought that John was written last (so probably before 70 AD)...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Interesting correspondence between Jeremiah 16:14-15 & 23:7-8 (KJV)-- 14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt; 15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    A well known quotation of one prophet of another with credit given by name to the original writer. Jeremiah 26:18 & Micah 3:12 (KJV) -- 18 Micah the Morasthite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah, and spake to all the people of Judah, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Zion...
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    Does Unsaved Children Disqualify and Elder, Deacon or Pastor?

    So you admit that there is no difference between the Calvinist and the non-Calvinist concerning the control that parents have over their child's ultimate spiritual decision. But now you seem to imply that an "Arminian" would exert more effort towards winning their child to Christ. If that was...
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    Does Unsaved Children Disqualify and Elder, Deacon or Pastor?

    I do not accept your speaking on behalf of "some" unidentified other persons. What do you say? Is it true that you believe that the parent has absolute control over the child's salvation, or not? If not, (that is, NOT having control is also the non-Calinvist perspective) why did you claim that...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    This morning while listening to the radio I recognized the repetition in John 16:16-19 (KJV)-- 16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. 17 Then said [some] of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he...
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    Does Unsaved Children Disqualify and Elder, Deacon or Pastor?

    Logically from your statement should we conclude then from the non-Calvinist perspective the parents would have complete control over the salvation of their children? The parents would have the power to either: (1) have their children become saved [could they even do that against the child's...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Still in Jeremiah I notice this reoccurring phrase (KJV) -- 32:43 And fields shall be bought in this land, whereof ye say, [It is] desolate without man or beast; it is given into the hand of the Chaldeans. 33:10 Thus saith the LORD; Again there shall be heard in this place, which ye say [shall...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Taking a look at Jeremiah 10:12-16 & Jeremiah 51:15-19 -- 12 עֹשֵׂה אֶרֶץ בְּכֹחֹו מֵכִין תֵּבֵל בְּחָכְמָתֹו וּבִתְבוּנָתֹו נָטָה שָׁמָֽיִם׃ 13 לְקֹול תִּתֹּו הֲמֹון מַיִם בַּשָּׁמַיִם וַיַּעֲלֶה נְשִׂאִים מִקְצֵה ארץ בְּרָקִים לַמָּטָר עָשָׂה וַיֹּוצֵא רוּחַ מֵאֹצְרֹתָֽיו׃ 14 נִבְעַר...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    I had left some "low-hanging fruit" but no one else bothered to post it. So, here is some beautiful repetition from Genesis 1 (KJV) -- 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. __And the evening and the morning were the first day. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Psalm 67:3 & 5 (KJV)-- 3 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee.
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    1 Kings 19:10 &14 (KJV)-- 10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, [even] I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. 14 And...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    I am always fascinated by the same phrases being used by different biblical writers. Is this phenomenon because they are aware of each others' texts? Are these simply common sayings? Or, is this evidence for the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and the lone Author behind all these words? Notice...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Did you know that these words of wisdom are repeated? Are they particularly important? Proverbs 22:3 & 27:12, Proverbs 6:10-11 & 24:33-34, and Proverbs 21:9 & 25:24 (KJV)-- 3 A prudent [man] foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished. 12 A prudent...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    So true, Scarlett! How much of Scripture do you think is actually duplicated within itself? Five percent? 10%? More?
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Some duplication found in Numbers 29 (KJV)-- 22 And one goat [for] a sin offering; beside the continual burnt offering, and his meat offering, and his drink offering. 28 And one goat [for] a sin offering; beside the continual burnt offering, and his meat offering, and his drink offering...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Two identical verses 1 Kings 15:16 & 32 (KJV)-- 16 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days. 32 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days.
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Repeated phrases in Psalm 29 (KJV)-- A Psalm of David. 1 Give unto the LORD, O ye mighty, give unto the LORD glory and strength. 2 Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness. 3 The voice of the LORD [is] upon the waters: the God of...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Holy Bible 2.0

    Notice the extreme similarity between Exodus 25:33 & Exodus 37:19 (Hebrew text shown below) -- 25:33 שְׁלֹשָׁה גְבִעִים מְֽשֻׁקָּדִים בַּקָּנֶה הָאֶחָד כַּפְתֹּר וָפֶרַח וּשְׁלֹשָׁה גְבִעִים מְשֻׁקָּדִים בַּקָּנֶה הָאֶחָד כַּפְתֹּר וָפָרַח כֵּן לְשֵׁשֶׁת הַקָּנִים הַיֹּצְאִים מִן־הַמְּנֹרָֽה׃...
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