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    Deception and OSAS

    You are right, I should have said the non-elect as we are all lost at one time.
  2. R

    Different Protestant Denominations

    Yes it is a new denomination so what you say about dissension within the URC is a good point. But doctrinal dissension as opposed to dissension on order of worship should be avoided at all costs. It is my understanding within the CRC there is a wide range from very conservative to very...
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    Deception and OSAS

    The Lost do not even recognize sin so how can they grieve over it? Only the elect do this.
  4. R

    Deception and OSAS

    None of the passages you use point to a believer they point simply to those who God has shown mercy on and rebuked that mercy.
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    Deception and OSAS

    Knowing this is pretty fruitless and how you don't care that you take things out of context, I am still given the energy to dispute you. You quote part of John 8:31 why? because if you quote the whole passage of John 8:31-59 it would disprove your point. Jesus is telling Jews who DON'T...
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    Deception and OSAS

    Paul used the race metaphor because the Greeks were familiar with the Olympics. The runners of the race are invited. By who? God before the foundation of the world. Can they run outside their lanes on the way to the finish? Certainly only one ran the race perfectly; Christ. But all those invited...
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    Deception and OSAS

    That person you talk about condemned us all to death. That person was under a law based covenant. Do this and you live disobey and you die. But Christ's gospel is different. If you believe in a works based salvation then you sir are preaching a different gospel and I will pray for the Lord to...
  8. R

    Deception and OSAS

    You should examine yourself in the mirror. You have not given a shred of biblical evidence other than quoting verses out of context to bolster your false belief.
  9. R

    Deception and OSAS

    So you are saying that if you cherry pick you passages to prove your man made theology that's ok but if Ann quotes things in context and uses a historical hermeneutic then she is wrong? Ooooooooooooooooook NOT! We are to examine everything by the Word of God the way he inspired it to be...
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    Deception and OSAS

    Do you actually believe that everyone in your church is a saved person? Or do you not think there are tares among you. No where in any of your responses have you shown clear biblical evidence of someone who God has chosen that has lost his election. There are a few out there like the FV who...
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    Deception and OSAS

    Where in all your quotes does it say that those who go back to their worldly ways were saved. Christ told us there are many tares among the wheat. 1 John 2:19: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that...
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    Deception and OSAS

    Perserverance of the Saints What one believes has no bearing on their justification before God. The church in Galatia certainly thought they were saved but by their actions it was clear to Paul that they were practicing a different gospel than that that had been given them. Galatians 1:6-10...
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    Different Protestant Denominations

    Presenting the Reformed Perspective I am a member of the URC the United Reformed Church and though you said you knew about Presbyterians I thought I would give you the Continental Reformed Perspective (otherwise known as the Dutch Reformed Tradition). We practice padeo-baptism and view...
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