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No. You are wrong. I am not moving on, just addressing a different passage brought up by a different member. I agree that there is such a thing...
[ad hominem snipped] The context tells you that the word "for" in Galatians 2:20 is a substitution. I note that you move to an entirely different...
You are adding to the text (the verse says that Christ gave Himself for you, nothing about a substitute.... i.e., instead of you). Why not just...
Jon, stop it. The verse says: My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this...
Then we agree. The verse is not substitution (it is NOT Christ giving Himself instead of you (substitute) but God giving Himself for you...
Jon, I have quoted the scripture. I have not changed one word. My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ...
Yes, something was changed. And nobody is saying God gave Himself with us. You changed "Gave Himself for me" to "God Himself instead of me"....
Yes, Jesus gave himself for us - so that dead people can be raised from death. Not so that living people can be saved from dying. Resurrection...
Nothing was changed, Jon. Let me quote the Bible to you once again. My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but...
Except that is not substitution. The passage states that Christ gave Himself for you. You change that to read "Christ gave Himself instead of...
My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the...
God is glorified in Christ. If God were looking at us, instead of our substitute, "all our righteousness would be as filthy rags" before God. It...
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities....
You are taking a flying leap in applying 'tongues' to Romans 8:26. That verse speaks of 'groanings that cannot be uttered.' 'Tongues' are...
