1 Peter 2:9-10

[Van]

1 Peter 2:9-10 NASB
But you are A CHOSEN PEOPLE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY, but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.

Lets look at the 1 Peter2:9-10 passage once again:

a) "You" refers to those in the existing audience at that time who were born anew under the New Covenant
b) The "you" are "a holy priesthood because our spiritual sacrifices are acceptable to God through Christ, 1 Peter 2:5
c) Yes, the description of a holy nation, a people set apart for God's purpose fits the OT election and the NT election.
d) Yes, a people for God's own possess fits the OT election and the NT election.
e) Called out of darkness refers to a specific group of people transferred into Christ under the New Covenant Election only.
f) Into His marvelous light refers to being transferred into Christ's holy kingdom, thus only applicable to NT election.
g You were once not a people refers to the audience, a people belonging to Christ. Obviously whoever is in view did not become individually chosen before creation, because then they would have always been a people chosen for His possession.
h) Secondly, the "you" had at some point in their existence had not received mercy, but now had received mercy.​

Thus the passage precludes Ephesians 1:4 from being a foreseen individual election, with or without faith, because our individual election into salvation occurs after we existed but had not yet been chosen individually. Therefore, the Election of Ephesians 1:4 is corporate, when God chose Christ to be His Redeemer individually, He also choose those His Redeemer might redeem corporately.

 

[Zaatar71]

1 Peter 2:9-10 NASB
But you are A CHOSEN PEOPLE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY, but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.

Lets look at the 1 Peter2:9-10 passage once again:

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a) "You" refers to those in the existing audience at that time who were born anew under the New Covenant​

b) The "you" are "a holy priesthood because our spiritual sacrifices are acceptable to God through Christ, 1 Peter 2:5​

c) Yes, the description of a holy nation, a people set apart for God's purpose fits the OT election and the NT election.​

d) Yes, a people for God's own possess fits the OT election and the NT election.​

e) Called out of darkness refers to a specific group of people transferred into Christ under the New Covenant Election only.​

f) Into His marvelous light refers to being transferred into Christ's holy kingdom, thus only applicable to NT election.​

g You were once not a people refers to the audience, a people belonging to Christ. Obviously whoever is in view did not become individually chosen before creation, because then they would have always been a people chosen for His possession.​

h) Secondly, the "you" had at some point in their existence had not received mercy, but now had received mercy. ​

Thus the passage precludes Ephesians 1:4 from being a foreseen individual election, with or without faith, because our individual election into salvation occurs after we existed but had not yet been chosen individually. Therefore, the Election of Ephesians 1:4 is corporate, when God chose Christ to be His Redeemer individually, He also choose those His Redeemer might redeem corporately.

The poster shows he is badly confused on the text, and God's eternal purpose. He is not a novice, but actually offers ideas that are not consistent with sound biblical teaching. Reader beware!

 

[Van]

The poster shows he is badly confused on the text, and God's eternal purpose. He is not a novice, but actually offers ideas that are not consistent with sound biblical teaching. Reader beware!

Here we see the Calvinist using his "change the subject" ratchet from his tool box of fallacious argumentation tools. He did not even bother to post "taint so" but instead wants to change the subject to my conjured poor behavior. False teacher tactics 101.

The topic is 1 Peter 2:9-10 and how it precludes our individual election before we were created and existed, because we once were "not a people" who had yet to receive mercy. If we had been chosen individually before we were created, then we would have always been a people, and would have always already received mercy.

This is not rocket science.

 

[Zaatar71]

Here we see the Calvinist using his "change the subject" ratchet from his tool box of fallacious argumentation tools. He did not even bother to post "taint so" but instead wants to change the subject to my conjured poor behavior. False teacher tactics 101.

The topic is 1 Peter 2:9-10 and how it precludes our individual election before we were created and existed, because we once were "not a people" who had yet to receive mercy. If we had been chosen individually before we were created, then we would have always been a people, and would have always already received mercy.

This is not rocket science.

While God's Eternal purpose is unfolding right on time, people are not saved, and identified as being individually elected, until the Spirit effectually draws them to saving faith, where they openly confess Christ. They are not saved, until God;s saves them, but from the Divine side they have always been elected.

 

[Van]

While God's Eternal purpose is unfolding right on time, people are not saved, and identified as being individually elected, until the Spirit effectually draws them to saving faith, where they openly confess Christ. They are not saved, until God;s saves them, but from the Divine side they have always been elected.

Good Grief!

They were once not a chosen people, cannot be rewritten as once they did not know they were a chosen people.

Please stop with your monkey wrench.

 

[JD731]

A preparation for the study of the Jewish Christian epistles and the identity of of the strangers and foreigners to whom they were addressed should naturally begin in Hosea chapter 1 and proceeds from there. No, actually, it should go back to the division of the kingdom into the nation of Judah in the south and the nation of Israel in the north. These epistles are addressing the opportunity to these people, the tribes of the north, for the fulfilling of the promises of Hosea for a new birth into the family of God after they had been judged by God as "not my people" after which they were displaced from their land and cut off from the land covenant God had made with the national fathers.

If one does this he will see that God is addressing these people as a "nation" by the "ministers of the circumcision - Ga 2) during the dispensation of grace and their plight going forward is in their own hands, depending on what they do with the NT promises as related to them through the apostle Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, which he calls them in their present situation.

The generation of Jesus Christ, which is 70 years long, is the generation that is charged with recognizing and receiving their Messiah and through whom all the prophecies concerning Jesus Christ would find their fulfilment. Both the Jews and the strangers failed to do this during the apostolic era when he sent them out to say "all things are now ready, come" and they, except a small remnant, refused to come. This caused our Lord to seek other people to fulfill his design for this present age, preparing his bride, cutting the generation of Jews short by the death and burial of the nation and taking away their national identity.

This is all told to us in the parables of Jesus in time of his ministry on earth.

Hosea 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Concerning the underlined. No saint is a son of God in the OT. Without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ there is no new birth.

How long will Israel be dead?

Ho 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

We are now early in the third thousand year day since the cross of Christ as the Lord counts time. The day of Jezreel is equal to the day of the LORD.

There is much to know.