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2 Peter 2:1..bought.. Limited Atonement Cals. believe that word more than Ar. Universalists.

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Alan Gross, Nov 5, 2023.

  1. Alan Gross

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    The meaning of the Greek word agorazo, translated "bought", in 2 Peter 2:1, always carries with it the meaning, "to buy and to take possession", "to purchase and acquire", "to pay for and obtain", and pay a price to redeem", etc.

    Agorazo plays for keeps.

    In 2 Peter 2:1, Agorazo maintains its intrinsic meaning to "buy, purchase, spend, pay a price, give valuables, settle up for, or remunerate", etc., with the sense of its connotation also including, "taking possession, acquiring ownership, obtaining, securing, procuring, attaining, making private property, deriving proprietorship, releasing", etc., where it is used in that passage; "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."

    The word, "bought", as translated from Agorazo, includes the idea that the transaction is consummated. That is the very nature of the word, Agorazo/"bought", whether it is the secular use of the word or the theological or redemptive use of the word.

    In instances of secular and pagan usage
    Agorazo/"bought" is used when a slave raised the purchase price to buy his own freedom. That slave could then take that purchase price amount to the temple priest and the priest would use the slaves money to purchase that slave from their master.8 After the slave had been Agorazo/"bought from their master, they were released and became in essence a freed slave. Everytime there was buying with a price that took place, there was a release or freedom of the slave, from the previous bondage, with a change in ownership.

    This word Agorazo/"bought is used 30 times in the New Testament. The New American Standard Bible translates it as buy 25 times, purchase 4 times, and spend 1 time. Of the thirty occurrences, twenty-four are in a common or secular sense such as buying a field (Matt. 13:44) or buying food (Luke 9:13). On five occasions, however, it is used of the souls of people being Agorazo/"bought" a Spiritual and Theological sense as God's children being Agorazo/"bought" with a purchase paid, and with Jesus Christ taking possession of their souls, as their Purchaser. These are:
    1 Cor. 6:20 - you have been bought with a price
    1 Cor. 7:23 - you were bought with a price
    Rev. 5:9 - Thou . . . didst purchase. . . men from every tribe, tongue and people
    Rev. 14:3 - who had been purchased from the earth
    Rev. 14:4 - These have been purchased from among men
    The compound form of this word, Exagorazo, is used four times in the New Testament, and two of those are used with a Theological reference to people's souls being purchased, or Agorazo/"bought" in a Spiritual sense. In Exagorazo, however, the prefix Ex- is also seen as having an intensified or strengthened form of the basic word Agorazo/"bought; and literally meaning, "to buy up" or "to completely buy out of", giving it a emphasis leaning more toward Spiritual Redemption, and is generally translated as "redeem"/"redeemed";
    Gal. 3:13 -
    Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law
    Gal. 4:5 - in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law


     
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    Mod Note: I know of no one on this board who is a universalist. i know of no one on this board who is an Arminian. In fact, I've never known in over 20 years an Arminian on the BB.

    I'm moving this to the Calvinism forum.
     
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    Delete it please, so I can redo the title.
     
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    The wrong post got deleted, somehow.

    This one we are in now has the bad title and was to be deleted;

    2 Peter 2:1..bought.. Limited Atonement Cals. believe that word more than Ar. Universalists.
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    This one had the discussion going on it and was a good thread that got deleted instead;

    #1) 2 Peter 2:1..bought.. = to Buy & Obtain Possession with a New Ownership.

    It went with;

    #2) 2 Peter 2:1..bought.. = to Buy & Obtain Possession with a New Ownership.
     
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