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2 Samuel 24

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Clint Kritzer, May 25, 2002.

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  1. Clint Kritzer

    Clint Kritzer Active Member
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    The first part of this chapter has me scratching my head! I am seeking an explanation to resolve these two verses:

    On the surface it appears that David has followed God's command, yet he then feels guilty for doing so. If any of you will, please enlighten me.

    Thank you in advance for any thoughts.

    - Clint
     
    #1 Clint Kritzer, May 25, 2002
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    Hi, Clint. Are you a night owl, too.?

    It's just my thought that King David was having some problems with pride and God was allowing him to be tempted, knowing full well that he would succomb and sin because of pride (refer to verses 2 and 3).

    Why did God do this?

    I think you answered your own question.

    In verse 10, David was greatly remorseful and I don't believe that he was sorry for just numbering the people. I think that he was sorry for placing faith in himself and his accomplishments.

    Maybe David would not have come to that place of repentance until he hit "rock bottom" spiritually.
    And maybe God just gave him a little shove to get there.

    God allowed Satan to tempt and trap David and cause him to sin so that David would see the truth about his own heart.

    He was a man after God's own heart, remember?

    And don't forget about old Job! God allowed Satan to do a powerfully ugly act in his life, too. Brought him physically and emotionally to "rock bottom".

    I believe that God needed David to see, tangibly and realistically, where his pride was leading him.

    Peace-

    Scarlett O.
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    #2 Scarlett O., May 26, 2002
  3. Sularis

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    I'll have to agree with Scarlett

    It was pride, wrong thinking, and lack of faith/trust on both the nation and David's part.

    Head up a few chapters you'll note that light of Israel crack - Hoo yeah think what God did to ole Nebbie Its late I forgot how to spell his name sorry.

    the grass chewing incident

    Note the anger was against Israel; but God was testing David. David failed [​IMG] So God got teed off at em all [​IMG]
     
    #3 Sularis, May 26, 2002
  4. Chris Temple

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    This is a perfect example of God's complete sovereign control, primary and secondary causation and the ordaining by God of all things - even sin - for his own purpose, which is always righteous. The two parallel passages are these:

    2 Sam 24:1 Now again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and it incited David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”

    1 Ch 21:1 Then Satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel.

    As MacArthur says:

    And The London Confession of Baptist Faith, Chapter III: Of God's Decree:
    The same principle is found in Job 1 and 2.
     
    #4 Chris Temple, May 26, 2002
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    I'm glad someone posted this topic. I was reading this in II Samual this mornin,and I didn't understand what David had done wrong. It apeared to me that he did as God asked him to do.
    Thank ya'll for clearing that up.
    **Abby** [​IMG]
     
    #5 MissAbbyIFBaptist, May 26, 2002
  6. Clint Kritzer

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    Thank you folks. Chris, the crossreference to 1Chronicles was exactly what I was looking for!

    - Clint
     
    #6 Clint Kritzer, May 27, 2002
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