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40 Years Ago
- Thread starter Crabtownboy
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I don't get the reasoning here, brother. So many of these posts seem to demean Trump (I get that), but I don't understand the elevation of such an ungodly agenda as is the Democrat platform.
As Christians, it seems to me that we would be arguing from a better position if our stance were biblical. Standing on ungodly ground invalidates anything you may point to insofar as the GOP platform (the Democrat Log in your eye is overshadowing anything you may say).
As Christians, it seems to me that we would be arguing from a better position if our stance were biblical. Standing on ungodly ground invalidates anything you may point to insofar as the GOP platform (the Democrat Log in your eye is overshadowing anything you may say).
Childhood poverty!?
What about infanticide?
Hillary is a staunch supporter of child murder!
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/04/03/...orn-person-doesnt-have-constitutional-rights/
HankD
What about infanticide?
Hillary is a staunch supporter of child murder!
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/04/03/...orn-person-doesnt-have-constitutional-rights/
HankD
Zaac
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The Democrat platform is okay with abortion.
The GOP platform is okay with rejecting Christ.
From which can a person keep doing and be forgiven?
Zaac
Well-Known Member
Donald is a staunch supporter of rejecting Christ. There can be redemption even if one continues to support child murder. There can be no redemption if one continues to reject Christ. But that little tidbit doesn't seem to matter to Christians in the GOP any longer.
Zaac
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She can receive redemption from her blood on her hands if she continues. If he continues to do what he does, he can't be redeemed and will be taking a whole lot of folks to hell with him.
Zaac , please stop.
It's not only murder but its the shedding of innocent blood.
Yes, anyone who comes to Christ will be forgiven, Trump, Hillary, Obama -
And I have prayed for these to that effect.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
HankD
Zaac
Well-Known Member
Hank, I'm gonna have to ask you and every other person who thinks like you to stop.
It's rejecting Christ. It's FOREVER.
Innocent murdered babies (as heinous as it is)can be covered by God's grace and have eternal life. But it's beyond the pale to conceive that we live in a day where Christians proudly boast that there is something worse than rejecting Christ and going to an eternal lake of fire.
It's idolatry.
OK I will stop this particular dialogue Zaac but I will never stop fighting against babies being ground up or poisoned or strangled murdered while still in the womb. One of my tactics will be to vote against it.
HankD
Zaac
Well-Known Member
I understand Hank. But if Christians fought as hard to do things GOD's way and point folks to faith in Him and to obedience to everything He commands as hard as they fight against babies being murdered, then you wouldn't have babies being ground up or poisoned or strangled while still in the womb.
Y'all want to fight a spiritual battle in the flesh. God has HIS way that continues to be ignored because the lot of you think the answer is the ballot box. Yet abortions don't suddenly decrease or go up because a certain party is in office.
It's IDOLATRY.
And I find it strangely odd why so many Christians think abortion is gonna go crazy because Hillary supports it, but the same folks don't seem to care or think that rejecting of Christ will increase because of Trump's rejection of Christ?
Christ did not die for a political party and supporting abortion is denying Christ. My question is if you believe Trump is anti-Christian then how do you justify opposing him by supporting a platform that is so outwardly opposed to God as is the Democrat agenda?
Zaac
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Umm, you're confused. I don't support the Democrats either. Murder is murder. They sanction it in the womb. The GOP sanctions it outside the womb and the last couple of elections has also sanctioned the rejection of Christ.
Why would I as a lover of Jesus Christ support any of that?
Sorry, I was not clear. I do not mean you personally. I was addressing the OP which criticized Trump while praising Clinton. My point is that a Democrat has no moral ground upon which to stand.
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Zaac
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My apologies. I completely agree.
And this is what kills me is that it looks as though the Body of Christ has just decided we just don't care any more that GOD has a way. We've convinced ourselves that the way to turn the tide is to support wicked, wicked men and women.
Yet we can't quite seem to comprehend that the tide keeps going the way that it is because we keep spitting in God's face and supporting evil instead of humbling ourselves and crying out to Him.
Abortion nor any other issue can't be more important than seeing folks come to faith in Christ. HE didn't commission us to fight abortion or any other issue of the day. He commissioned us to combat the issue of eternity and people's rejection of Him.
It is only by making disciples who obey everything that HE commands that abortion and all this other evil will be combated.
Faulty premise.
Why can't they do both? For your post to be true, you have to assume that they're (or Hank, specifically) not preaching and teaching and doing their best to lead people to God.
Does acceptance of Christ suddenly decrease or go up because a certain party is in office?
What do yo know? Voting for someone for president is also voting them into hell.