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4th jab now recommended

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JonC

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Actually, it is the opposite. It is because the vacvines are effective that the boosters are recommended.
 
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canadyjd said:
That makes as much sense as claiming we need vaccine mandates to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

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This does not make sense. The vaccine has been proven effective in providing functional immunity. The effectiveness decreases with time. Boosters are therefore recommended.

No vaccine is 100%. While the vacvinated have a level of protection against infection and functional immunity should they be infected It, it is still possible they could become seriously ill. It has been proven that the unvaccinated are more likely to get and spread vovid. This means tge unvaccinated put those around them at an unnecessary risk.
 
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JonC said:
This does not make sense. The vaccine has been proven effective in providing functional immunity. The effectiveness decreases with time. Boosters are therefore recommended.
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Those recovered from covid have been shown to have 27 times the immunity of the vaxed. This effectiveness does not appear to decrease over time.

Those recovered from covid should always be considered when determining public policy.

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So the vaccinated can get seriously I’ll

so the vaccinated can still spread the virus

do the vaccinated need to social distance

so the vaccinated need to wear masks


How are unvaccinated a bigger risk for others?
 
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canadyjd said:
Those recovered from covid have been shown to have 27 times the immunity of the vaxed. This effectiveness does not appear to decrease over time.

Those recovered from covid should always be considered when determining public policy.

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I don't know. Three studies previously linked stated that covid survivors had more antibodies (depending on the severity of the illness) but less t-cell immunity. Antibodies for vovid survivors is estimated to be effective for 6 months after recovery.

0.7% of survivors of severe covid cases contracted covid a second time.

But covid survivors who are not vaccinated are 2.34 times more likely to be reinfected with the virus.

While I agree covid survivors are at less risk than those unvaccinated who have not had covid, they still pose an unnecessary risk. They are over twice as likely to become infected than were they vaccinated. Studies have shown they have aider t-cell immunity.
 
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JonC said:
The vaccine has been proven effective in providing functional immunity. The effectiveness decreases with time. Boosters are therefore recommended.
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I have no problem with an annual COVID-19 shot, just like getting an annual flu shot.
 
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KenH said:
I have no problem with an annual COVID-19 shot, just like getting an annual flu shot.
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I expect it will be annual to every 6 months. I got the Moderna booster, which is half the normal dose.
 
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JonC said:
I expect it will be annual to every 6 months. I got the Moderna booster, which is half the normal dose.
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I am willing to go along with it being annual, but I really don't want to have one sooner than that. Maybe just because I am used to decades of the annual flu shot.
 
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Revmitchell said:
So the vaccinated can get seriously I’ll

so the vaccinated can still spread the virus

do the vaccinated need to social distance

so the vaccinated need to wear masks


How are unvaccinated a bigger risk for others?
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The unvaccinated are more a risk. It is not about completely removing risk (we can't do that), but about acting responsibly.

The vaccinated are less likely to get covid, if they do get covid they typically have a lower viral load (not as contageous) and the infection period us typically considerably shorter.
 
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KenH said:
I am willing to go along with it being annual, but I really don't want to have one sooner than that. Maybe just because I am used to decades of the annual flu shot.
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I don't mind either way. I go to the doc twice a year for a check up
 
SavedByGrace

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Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin said:
The vaccines are now found to be sooooo effective and useful that a 4th dose is now recommended for those with compromised immune systems.

If the vaccine loses efficacy over time, then why not a 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th?

https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-covid-fourth-booster-dose-immunocompromised-people
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the MAIN reason for continued need for vaccines!

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/11/astrazeneca-investors-narrowly-approve-ceos-2021-pay-package.html
 
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KenH said:
Yes, they are. You can argue about getting vaccinated or not getting vaccinated, but you shouldn't post such bunkum.
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The 'virus' has not been isolated. So what is being put in those needles? A vaccination is supposed to make people immune to a particular disease. So how come the single, double and triple jabbed are coming down with COVID? The unvaxxed are doing much better off depending on natural immunity whereas the vaxxed are getting sick and dying.
 
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