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666 number of man or number of "A" man...and Galatians 2:20......Faith in, Faith of.

I think to a lot of people this will sound insignificant, but to me it speaks volumes.

To me there is a huge difference between faith of Christ (it's His,, he imparts it to us) AND faith in Christ, (as if it is your own, and you place your faith in Jesus),

It's similar to me, as in Revelation where it talks about the Antichrist, and someone reads the verse 666 is the number of a man.....And someone claims, not so, for the text says 666 is the number of man. They go on to say the letter "A" is not in the Greek....
 

alexander284

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I think to a lot of people this will sound insignificant, but to me it speaks volumes.

To me there is a huge difference between faith of Christ (it's His,, he imparts it to us) AND faith in Christ, (as if it is your own, and you place your faith in Jesus),

It's similar to me, as in Revelation where it talks about the Antichrist, and someone reads the verse 666 is the number of a man.....And someone claims, not so, for the text says 666 is the number of man. They go on to say the letter "A" is not in the Greek....

Using your reasoning, John 1:1 should read, " ... And the Word was (a) god."
 

Dave G

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To me there is a huge difference between faith of Christ (it's His,, he imparts it to us) AND faith in Christ, (as if it is your own, and you place your faith in Jesus),
It's both. ;)
It's a gift ( Ephesians 2:8 ), authored and finished by Christ ( Hebrews 12:2 ) which is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen ( Hebrews 11:1 ). Once given, it becomes ours, as are all of God's gifts...

They are given, become ours and are never taken back ( Romans 11:29 ).

It's similar to me, as in Revelation where it talks about the Antichrist, and someone reads the verse 666 is the number of a man.....And someone claims, not so, for the text says 666 is the number of man. They go on to say the letter "A" is not in the Greek....
The little descriptive "a" is not in the Greek in Revelation 13:18.

https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/rev13.pdf
 

Alan Gross

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No matter what fact
Using your reasoning, John 1:1 should read, " ... And the Word was (a) god."

No matter what factor '6' is multiplied by (x10, x100, etc.), it does not acquire a symbolically 'complete', or 'perfect' number, "7", as identified with God.

...

With respect to 'a'; in John 1:1, 'a' is there and a possible grammatical translation, however, it is not a possible contextual translation and therefore, not a proper translation.

The translation must make sense, as a rule, no matter how little one may be 'qualified' to translate.

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Only GOD Has GLORY.

Jesus Was God.

...

With the "a" not being before "man", in Revelation, it is certainly not to be added, by man.
 

percho

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No matter what fact


No matter what factor '6' is multiplied by (x10, x100, etc.), it does not acquire a symbolically 'complete', or 'perfect' number, "7", as identified with God.

...

With respect to 'a'; in John 1:1, 'a' is there and a possible grammatical translation, however, it is not a possible contextual translation and therefore, not a proper translation.

The translation must make sense, as a rule, no matter how little one may be 'qualified' to translate.

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Only GOD Has GLORY.

Jesus Was God.

...

With the "a" not being before "man", in Revelation, it is certainly not to be added, by man.

And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. Mark 9:2

For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 2 Peter 1:18
who through him do believe in God, who did raise out of the dead, and glory to him did give, so that your faith and hope may be in God. 1 Peter 1:21

BTW I do believe that Jesus is God.
 

Alan Gross

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And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. Mark 9:2

For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 2 Peter 1:18
who through him do believe in God, who did raise out of the dead, and glory to him did give, so that your faith and hope may be in God. 1 Peter 1:21

BTW I do believe that Jesus is God.


(In the Office of Mediator) For he (God the Son) received from (The Office of ) God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him (Jesus) from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him (Jesus) in the holy mount. 2 Peter 1:18


I don't know what these words are supposed to say,

"who through him do believe in God, who did raise out of the dead, and glory to him did give, so that your faith and hope may be in God." 1 Peter 1:21

other than this Scripture quote; 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God....

God the Father is Allowed to Give Honor and Glory to The Second Person of The Divine Godhead that He Has Previously Given Him, throughout Eternity Past.

They Share One Divine Nature and Have Been Perfectly Complacent within Themself, Forever.

You have missed an infinite amount of Reality.

( 1._16 ) THE COMPLACENCY AND DELIGHT GOD HAD IN HIMSELF, as God The Father, God The Son and God The Holy Spirit, Among and Between EACH DIVINE PERSON in The GODHEAD, BEFORE ANY CREATURE WAS CREATED. – Aware of The Godhead
 

tyndale1946

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I think to a lot of people this will sound insignificant, but to me it speaks volumes.

To me there is a huge difference between faith of Christ (it's His,, he imparts it to us) AND faith in Christ, (as if it is your own, and you place your faith in Jesus),

It's similar to me, as in Revelation where it talks about the Antichrist, and someone reads the verse 666 is the number of a man.....And someone claims, not so, for the text says 666 is the number of man. They go on to say the letter "A" is not in the Greek....

Yes their is a difference... The Faith OF Christ is something he did alone... Leave the language alone, you go changing one tiny word you change the whole meaning... You can do what you want, I won't touch it... Of course those on here know I'm KJV!... Enough said!... Brother Glen:)
 

Martin Marprelate

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I think to a lot of people this will sound insignificant, but to me it speaks volumes.

To me there is a huge difference between faith of Christ (it's His,, he imparts it to us) AND faith in Christ, (as if it is your own, and you place your faith in Jesus),

It's similar to me, as in Revelation where it talks about the Antichrist, and someone reads the verse 666 is the number of a man.....And someone claims, not so, for the text says 666 is the number of man. They go on to say the letter "A" is not in the Greek....
There is no indefinite article in Greek, so IMO you are quite correct. It's time to stop looking for this 'antichrist,' and trying to make Nero, Napoleon, Putin or whomever fit the number. The Beast out of the Earth represents false religion all through the ages (cf. 1 John 2:18; 4:3) and you can distinguish false religion because it is of man rather than of God and therefore exalts man rather than God.
 
Using your reasoning, John 1:1 should read, " ... And the Word was (a) god."

That is NOT fair........................But since you brought it up, I will tell you what I think of John 1:1

I believe you can take the scriptures without interpretation and come up with a simple answer about who Jesus is.

John 1:1 and Genesis 1:1 are the same....In the beginning WAS "The Word", and that word is described in Gen 1 as a spoken word; "Light Be" and light became...

And that same spoken word BECAME flesh, and dwelt among us. In a body prepared by God.

So we have God who is SPIRIT, Jesus who is THE WORD, and Jesus Spirit given to us, to Comfort, Glorify, and Reveal God and Jesus
 
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