BobRyan
Well-Known Member
We have had a number of threads on the Pre-trib vs Post-Trib rapture idea. And the group seems to be almost evenly divided between the two with slightly more voting for pre-trib.
However it is often the case that both pre-trib and post-trib agree on one thing -- slicing and dicing the quantitative 70 weeks timeline of Dan 9 (70 weeks are 490 prophetic day-for-year days, so 490 real years) - so that the last week (the last 7 years) is chopped out of the 490 year timeline, and a huge 1000's of years gap is inserted so that it can fit late 19th and 20th century notions.
John Gill - the author of the first Baptist Commentary in the 18th century - does not allow for such abuse of the timeline. He insists (as do many others including me) that ALL timelines have to be left "intact" so that given a start point you know the end point (by definition of a timeline)
See the 70 year quantitative timeline in Dan 9:1-4 of Jeremiah. Specific start - hence specific end.
See the 1260 year timeline (day for year in Dan 7 as in Dan 9) of Dan 7. Specific start with specific end (even for those who choose to ignore the day-for-year principle in Daniel).
See the 2300 year timeline of Dan8.
See the 430 year timeline of Genesis where God predicts the years of captivity in Egypt for the Jews when speaking to Abraham.
So in this poll we give readers and posters a chance to show what they have done with scripture on this one.
Did you slice up the 490 years? Did you leave it in tact? If you slived it up -- did you do that with any other quantitative timeline in scripture or did this "just so happen" to be in the only time you needed to do it?
in Christ,
Bob
However it is often the case that both pre-trib and post-trib agree on one thing -- slicing and dicing the quantitative 70 weeks timeline of Dan 9 (70 weeks are 490 prophetic day-for-year days, so 490 real years) - so that the last week (the last 7 years) is chopped out of the 490 year timeline, and a huge 1000's of years gap is inserted so that it can fit late 19th and 20th century notions.
John Gill - the author of the first Baptist Commentary in the 18th century - does not allow for such abuse of the timeline. He insists (as do many others including me) that ALL timelines have to be left "intact" so that given a start point you know the end point (by definition of a timeline)
See the 70 year quantitative timeline in Dan 9:1-4 of Jeremiah. Specific start - hence specific end.
See the 1260 year timeline (day for year in Dan 7 as in Dan 9) of Dan 7. Specific start with specific end (even for those who choose to ignore the day-for-year principle in Daniel).
See the 2300 year timeline of Dan8.
See the 430 year timeline of Genesis where God predicts the years of captivity in Egypt for the Jews when speaking to Abraham.
So in this poll we give readers and posters a chance to show what they have done with scripture on this one.
Did you slice up the 490 years? Did you leave it in tact? If you slived it up -- did you do that with any other quantitative timeline in scripture or did this "just so happen" to be in the only time you needed to do it?
in Christ,
Bob